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That’s not what I said. I’m just observing that your judgement on the matter may well be clouded.
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That’s not what I said. I’m just observing that your judgement on the matter may well be clouded.
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I'm glad you don't think I was trying to shut down any conversation! Even if I was a mod I wouldn't. I find it interesting reading all the opinions and discussions from people here. It's the only place where covid is being discussed these days so it's good to get information and perspectives that daily life doesn't bring.Ahem, being interested in the current status and progress of Covid is not neurotic unless one is still hammering on about why there are no measures (which nobody is).
What is neurotic is coming to the thread to try and close the discussion down or to pretend is doesn’t exist anymore or post conspiracy nonsense.
I’ll be clear at this point I’m not talking about you being neurotic or shutting things down by the way but other posters on this page. I just wanted to correct you as to who was displaying odd behaviour
My point about neuroses is just that there are some people (not just here) that seem to still be really prickly about it or as if it's still the end of the world etc...
It's also refreshing to see a different perspective now as more evidence comes about of the many lies and issues that were said and done by various people, companies and government.
Of course it's still around but it really has fallen off the general media radar which is why I'm finding this thread an interesting place to see how some people are feeling.
I think ultimately and sadly we won't learn, and we're too proud to try and copy other countries that did things differently and rather than saying we cocked up the government will try and smudge everything and cover issues up.
A lot of existing pandemic planning was phased out from 2010 onwards - and/or so legacy the infrastructure wasn't there to support them any more, etc. I used to work in a lab many years ago which was tied into pandemic planning in the late 90s/early 2000s and that was all shelved without replacement in the last decade.
Studies and so on in recent years, some showing us as hideously unprepared, were largely ignored.
That doesn't excuse the way they went about it though - often with people or companies engaged to carry out planning with no previous experience in the field, etc.
Was quite interesting where I used to work for example there was a plan if the "big one" hit to create a direct emergency vehicle corridor between the site and the local district hospital with the ability to quickly repurpose the path through the nearby country park and some side streets, etc., due to the facilities on site including a lab which could be rapidly upgraded to BSL2/3 standard and a large warehouse space which could have been repurposed for quarantine or morgue requirements, etc. etc. - no one sees the value in having that kind of preparation in play these days though and it would require bulldozers and cutting through metal barriers, etc. now...
Well it's not completely fallen off the news, but life is basically back to normal for those of us lucky enough to not get seriously ill.
Kate Garraway's husband Derek Draper in 'very serious condition' as co-stars offer support
Garraway's fellow presenters on Good Morning Britain offered messages of support during Monday's episode, with Charlotte Hawkins saying Draper is "sadly in a very serious condition at the moment".
news.sky.com
COVID has definitely been in the news recently and quite a few people I know have had it. So this isn't the only place it's being discussed, perhaps in your sphere it might be though.
As has the normal flu. I know two, maybe three, who have had chest infections also.
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Around me talk about COVID seems to go in bursts and mostly background chatter these days - picked up a bit when people were coming back from the summer holidays and again in recent days, possibly related to people coming home from Uni, etc. for Christmas.
Don't know anyone who currently has it but it is lurking in the background - one of my colleagues I recently mentioned had a bunch of friends go down with it when they all got back from a holiday and she seems to have passed it on to her brother, but doesn't seem to have had it symptomatically herself and fortunately doesn't seem to have spread it at work.
There needs to be balance to discussion about it - we don't need it unduly dominating the agenda but it is also incredibly foolish to be dismissive of it - it can still be significant yet and there are people who are extremely vulnerable to it in a way they aren't to the same extent with other diseases in common circulation.
Don't know anyone who currently has it but it is lurking in the background - one of my colleagues I recently mentioned had a bunch of friends go down with it when they all got back from a holiday and she seems to have passed it on to her brother, but doesn't seem to have had it symptomatically herself and fortunately doesn't seem to have spread it at work.
There needs to be balance to discussion about it - we don't need it unduly dominating the agenda but it is also incredibly foolish to be dismissive of it - it can still be significant yet and there are people who are extremely vulnerable to it in a way they aren't to the same extent with other diseases in common circulation.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope they recover soon!
I think it just shows it's based on your social and professional circles how different your lived experiences are.
I think the only thing propping up covid chat in my sphere is general winter viruses going round (as they always have) and people speculating if it's covid they have or not. No one seems to actually care enough to test, but think any old cold could be covid.
Beyond that I don't think people tend to care much which I think is good thing. No point in being anxious all the time.
Beyond that I don't think people tend to care much which I think is good thing. No point in being anxious all the time.
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Again, I know at least two people who have tested positive for COVID recently (not including their families who have also).
Given we had a pandemic and lockdowns, and some people had life changing issues as a result, is it any surprise people are anxious when COVID is doing the rounds? Elderly people suddenly aren't at lower risk now that the general public don't talk about COVID. Do you know anyone who is 'anxious all the time' about COVID?
People should talk about it and flu etc also, it's unlikely the sheeple would comprehend but perhaps flu wouldn't spread as much if people cleaned their hands, didn't cough directly into other people's faces and stayed at home when they were ill?
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Most decent people do wash their hands and don't cough into people's faces. That's just basic manners. Also people can't always just stay at home. Working from home is a very middle class thing, the majority of working class people need to earn a living and don't get given a lot of the freedom people in higher paid jobs get.
All it really did was create an us and them attitude. All very good saying people should stay at home when ill, but people get annoyed if their avocado's and coconut oil dont turn up within 24hrs lol.
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Hard to say that Australia had excess deaths due to lockdowns like over here because life over there was relatively normal since they went hard on closing down the borders until they got everyone vaccinated.
Basic manners in Asia is to wear a mask if you're sick. Even if it won't stop COVID, it'll certainly drastically reduce cold/flu spread.
It's something we cannot comprehend.
Basic manners in Asia is to wear a mask if you're sick. Even if it won't stop COVID, it'll certainly drastically reduce cold/flu spread.
It's something we cannot comprehend.
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Staying at home doesn't mean working from home. Besides, if you have proper flu then you won't be doing anything other than lying in bed shivering and burning up, anyone who works from wherever whilst having the flu/bad cold doesn't actually have the flu/bad cold. And the manners your refer to aren't all that common, people should definitely be reminded, not part of scare tactics but just general hygiene.
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Today in our Trust we have:
Covid-19 - 111 patients
Flu - 19 patients
Covid-19 - 111 patients
Flu - 19 patients
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One day later 128 and 19
What's the R number looking like?
Yes but the flu patients are likely in because they have flu and the covid patients for a million other reasons - so can you break down why they are in because otherwise without context this is meaningless.