COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

I saw about 8 idiots handing out a newspaper about covid not being real at an island, light controlled, today.
Luckily the flow was moving when I got to them.

numpties
 
I saw about 8 idiots handing out a newspaper about covid not being real at an island, light controlled, today.
Luckily the flow was moving when I got to them.

numpties

People like that are just idiots and there's idiots in all walks of life.

But I still maintain that the response to covid and the denial afterwards and the sheer neurotism of a bad cold really puts them in the same camp.
 
Again with the deflection and failing to address the point(s) raised.

Multiple trained medical professionals will have examined those patients and the conclusion they came to was that they have Covid-19 and that was their reason for hospitalisation.

You seem perfectly willing to accept that 19 people could be in with "The Flu" without any other reason or "context" for it, but when it comes to the 111 Covid-19 Patients, you're determined to try and make it "some other reason they are really in hospital" and not the Covid-19 diagnosis they have received from medical professionals with years of training and expertise.

Why are you so seemingly unwilling to believe that 111 people could be hospitalized due to Covid-19?

Furthermore, what leads you to believe that those 111 people "are likely there for a million other reasons" and not Covid-19?
Put him on ignore like most other sane folk already have, you're wasting finger energy arguing with a troll.
 
Are you now confirming that all 128 are in hospital because they have covid? Or are you just posting more context free stats?

How special are you :)
As you can see I've screenshot our email, nothing more nothing less.
Can somebody explain this to him because it's not getting through for some reason.
 
So youre not confirming because you dont know. Medical expert lol.

Is there something wrong with you, who claimed to be a medical expert?
I screenshot our email which is now causing problems for staff probably including @Malevolence
On that email it says we have so many patients in hospital with COVID and Flu, make of that what you will, I didn't print those figures
 
Wow, someone is a little tender!

Seeing as covid is killing a very low percentage of its victims I think it's fair to say that people might have multiple reasons which might just happen to involve covid...

And if you want to hear of DOZENS OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, I've met quite a few recently who think it's a load of rubbish and that life is carrying on quite alright.

Source :https://idd.bag.admin.ch/diseases/covid/overview

Oh no, disaster, 0.27 per 100,000 rate of death. Please make it stop!

Sure, mhmmm, of course you have....

Go back to trolling the Ukraine thread with your BS, nobody is interested in reading your dribble here.
 
Covid has been a load of ******** since day 1

Average age of death 83.5

BBC daily death numbers to **** people up....10k die every week of every month all the time in the UK

You can't catch it sitting in a pub but have to mask up to go to the lav

Schools closed ffs

VIP fast lane for mates of mates and pub landlords

Drive to Durham to test my eyes

Neil ******* Ferguson predictions

Harder, longer, sooner

If it saves one life!!

Vaccine adverse reactions ignored by media

Nonsense
 
Is there something wrong with you, who claimed to be a medical expert?
I screenshot our email which is now causing problems for staff probably including @Malevolence
On that email it says we have so many patients in hospital with COVID and Flu, make of that what you will, I didn't print those figures
You need to have a chat with @Devilman as they nearly lost their **** over your stats and they seem to think you are more qualified than you actually are.

Anyway my original point from earlier today stands and you have nothing to offer that contradicts it so we got there in the end.
 
You need to have a chat with @Devilman as they nearly lost their **** over your stats and they seem to think you are more qualified than you actually are.

Anyway my original point from earlier today stands and you have nothing to offer that contradicts it so we got there in the end.

All I've done is supply a screenshot, you are the one finding a conspiracy in it :)
 
and the sheer neurotism of a bad cold

Just no on that - a bad cold barely kills anyone either alone or contributing - realistically the number is virtually zero - COVID has killed over 20K people in the UK where it was the only cause of death and probably as many again who won't be down as COVID statistics where they've recovered from COVID but it has destroyed their ability to fight, or exposed, an existing condition resulting in succumbing to it a few weeks or months later. Not to mention those where it is the underlying cause of death or a significant contributing factor.

In comparison though a bad flu year in the UK can result in 20K deaths, the vast majority of them are "with" influenza and the numbers where influenza was the only cause of death is in the low 100s.

People are entitled to their opinion but these kind of **** takes are part of the reason why we ended up with lockdowns and the rest of the hassle instead of dealing with it sensibly.

Average age of death 83.5

Ah you are one of those...
 
Last edited:
Sure, mhmmm, of course you have....

Go back to trolling the Ukraine thread with your BS, nobody is interested in reading your dribble here.

My lovely lady is one of the top neurologists in Switzerland, worked in charge of ICU, has written more papers than you have IQ points. Quite sure I'm sure the dinner parties with her and her peers are a little bit more insightful than most.

Then again you'd probably have a stroke when I told you of her view specifically on the covid vaccines and what she has seen herself.

But my own views are my own having had two eyes and taken 50+ flights each year during pandemic. It was rubbish.

As for Ukraine you really take life too seriously.
 
Just no on that - a bad cold barely kills anyone either alone or contributing - realistically the number is virtually zero - COVID has killed over 20K people in the UK where it was the only cause of death and probably as many again who won't be down as COVID statistics where they've recovered from COVID but it has destroyed their ability to fight, or exposed, an existing condition resulting in succumbing to it a few weeks or months later. Not to mention those where it is the underlying cause of death or a significant contributing factor.

In comparison though a bad flu year in the UK can result in 20K deaths, the vast majority of them are "with" influenza and the numbers where influenza was the only cause of death is in the low 100s.

People are entitled to their opinion but these kind of **** takes are part of the reason why we ended up with lockdowns and the rest of the hassle instead of dealing with it sensibly.



Ah you are one of those...

20,000 in a country of probably 60m+? Lol

And don't blame lockups on people who didn't care. Put the blame on the pathetic people that gave up on marriage, funerals, relationships and life and took it all like a champ, empowering governments that per whatsapp were laughing at their own livestock
 
20,000 in a country of probably 60m+? Lol

And don't blame lockups on people who didn't care. Put the blame on the pathetic people that gave up on marriage, funerals, relationships and life and took it all like a champ, empowering governments that per whatsapp were laughing at their own livestock

That is 20,000 people's parents, partners, children, etc. a significant factor in lockdowns becoming necessary is hospitals being pushed close to breaking point - my local district hospital exceeded 90% of their ability to cope leading up to the lockdowns (I have 2 cousins who work in oncology who were moved over to COVID wards/ICU there) and a significant factor in things getting to that point is people refusing to take some personal responsibility often due to silly notions of "it is just a bad cold".
 
That is 20,000 people's parents, partners, children, etc. a significant factor in lockdowns becoming necessary is hospitals being pushed close to breaking point - my local district hospital exceeded 90% of their ability to cope leading up to the lockdowns (I have 2 cousins who work in oncology who were moved over to COVID wards/ICU there) and a significant factor in things getting to that point is people refusing to take some personal responsibility often due to silly notions of "it is just a bad cold".

And how many people killed themselves with depression? How many people missed early cancer diagnosis, how many people missed key life events?

The cancer alone will kill more than 20000
 
  • Like
Reactions: UTT
And how many people killed themselves with depression? How many people missed early cancer diagnosis, how many people missed key life events?

The cancer alone will kill more than 20000

The affect of the lockdowns was projected to result in up to 80K premature cancer deaths alone - that pales compared to the consequences of a collapse of the health system which would see vast numbers dying of all kinds of preventable conditions before things recovered. All of which could have been avoided if people had taken this a bit more seriously, but proportionally, from the start.

Ultimately it is a lose-lose situation - this disease started from a high baseline potential to be the "big one" and these kind of diseases are always one step ahead of what we can see, if it had been the "big one" we could have been in a lot more trouble - the only intelligent way to deal with them is to carry out high quality studies as soon as possible (not done) and take stringent precautions to manage the spread early then ease off as we know better rather than messing about, bringing in measures reactively, then resorting to lockdowns out of panic.
 
Last edited:
The affect of the lockdowns was projected to result in up to 80K premature cancer deaths alone - that pales compared to the consequences of a collapse of the health system which would see vast numbers dying of all kinds of preventable conditions before things recovered. All of which could have been avoided if people had taken this a bit more seriously, but proportionally, from the start.

Ultimately it is a lose-lose situation - this disease started from a high baseline potential to be the "big one" and these kind of diseases are always one step ahead of what we can see, if it had been the "big one" we could have been in a lot more trouble - the only intelligent way to deal with them is to carry out high quality studies as soon as possible (not done) and take stringent precautions to manage the spread early then ease off as we know better rather than messing about, bringing in measures reactively, then resorting to lockdowns out of panic.

No, you slaves to the system caused it, not people "not taking it seriously". You accepted cruel and unusual lockdowns, restrictions on liberty, whilst flirting with even more extreme measures....because you were all cowards and easily cowed like history shows to tucking your forelock to your masters who saw your dog like obedience and laughed at you whilst they lived their own lives.

If even you are saying 80000 deaths from something known versus unknown then really the jokes on you. I just feel bad for all the poor swines who are dying and will die a needless death. I certainly don't feel bad for the people who let their mothers and fathers and family die all alone. These people are beneath contempt.
 
No, you slaves to the system caused it, not people "not taking it seriously". You accepted cruel and unusual lockdowns, restrictions on liberty, whilst flirting with even more extreme measures....because you were all cowards and easily cowed like history shows to tucking your forelock to your masters who saw your dog like obedience and laughed at you whilst they lived their own lives.

If even you are saying 80000 deaths from something known versus unknown then really the jokes on you. I just feel bad for all the poor swines who are dying and will die a needless death. I certainly don't feel bad for the people who let their mothers and fathers and family die all alone. These people are beneath contempt.

At what point do lockdowns become necessary? only when the streets are literally full of the dead?

What you are saying is the equivalent of laughing at people for going around a corner at a speed where they can stop within the distance they can see ahead because you by luck managed to go around it at high speed without incident... very very stupid. And unfortunately it will likely be someone else who pays the price for your stupidity before you learn the hard way how stupid it is.

EDIT: As an aside if you read through these threads you'll see right from the start I was advocating for measures which would avoid lockdowns while keeping the spread managed until we knew what we were dealing with and how best to approach it.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom