COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

I wish the trials of medications would hurry up and be completed.

There is also an infusion that as worked against covid and long covid being held up by the medical bodies for approval, pemivibart.


I hope a breakthrough comes soon. Because there are a lot of people having very dark thoughts thinking their lives are permanently damaged beyond repair. It is literally a race against time, as long covid is progressive. At the start of this I could still walk. Now bedbound 24/7.
 
I like what they've done with the old COVID dashboard: https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/ wonder if it gets enough use to justify it being maintained going forward but quite useful to be able to see what is going on.

Looks like COVID has dropped massively off a cliff compared to this time last year - interestingly the mini-peaks in the COVID cases around July and Oct/Nov more or less match up when we had what seemed to be mini outbreaks of it at work this year.

Hope I'm not speaking too soon but I'm amazed I made it another year without anything other than very very mild infections when I have caught anything, I so do not miss the days of getting a cold good and proper.

EDIT: Interesting that there are still on average over 100 deaths a week with COVID on the death certificate - around 70% are people dying with COVID a contributing rather than cause of death but of the remaining 30% it looks like almost half are healthy people without other co-morbidities while the rest are people with health conditions and/or old age.
 
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I like what they've done with the old COVID dashboard: https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/ wonder if it gets enough use to justify it being maintained going forward but quite useful to be able to see what is going on.

Looks like COVID has dropped massively off a cliff compared to this time last year - interestingly the mini-peaks in the COVID cases around July and Oct/Nov more or less match up when we had what seemed to be mini outbreaks of it at work this year.

Hope I'm not speaking too soon but I'm amazed I made it another year without anything other than very very mild infections when I have caught anything, I so do not miss the days of getting a cold good and proper.

EDIT: Interesting that there are still on average over 100 deaths a week with COVID on the death certificate - around 70% are people dying with COVID a contributing rather than cause of death but of the remaining 30% it looks like almost half are healthy people without other co-morbidities while the rest are people with health conditions and/or old age.

I can't remember any new variants of interest since the last one either. It's probably still evolving but the KP lineage seems to be where COVID is finally hitting a wall where it can keep mutating to evade immunity while still being as infectious. Seems to be right around the 5-year mark, which is historically when pandemics fizzled out on their own.
 
I can't remember any new variants of interest since the last one either. It's probably still evolving but the KP lineage seems to be where COVID is finally hitting a wall where it can keep mutating to evade immunity while still being as infectious. Seems to be right around the 5-year mark, which is historically when pandemics fizzled out on their own.

COVID fairly quickly hit a point where significant changes needed a more complex sequence of mutations, which take much much longer to produce a viable variant, and so far immunity against existing similar variants seems to be holding up fairly well in the population at large and many of those more vulnerable (outside of health issues and/or age) have either died or survived with some developed immunity.

Potential somewhere down the line for a new more dangerous variant to emerge though.
 
What a crazy ~5 years it has been.

Oh how I laughed with my other postie colleagues when suddenly loads of Chinese students came back from Xmas '19 holidays and were ordering face masks galore, silly stuff like there was an impending bad Darth Vadar costume party.

Then I came home from work around 17th March '20 and as soon as I opened the door, I could hear my better half repeatedly coughing. Days later, she could barely breathe, if she went for a walk she had to stop and rest after a very slow 5mins max. After ~2 very anxious months, she recovered enough to return to work and by mid summer, she was almost her old self again.

While I had the worst headache of my life for ~24 hours around 20th March and then returned to cycling for fitness. On the one hand, great it's not going to affect me, but on the other worrying how vulnerable my better half was going to be.

Then the worst fear happened in November '20, my better half got covid again and it hit her almost as hard as the first time, but with much more pronounced fatigue especially if she exercised and she started long term sick leave Xmas '20 due to long covid.

Me? Just felt like a mild head cold, but took it easy, no problems.

In spring, summer and Xmas '21, we got our covid vaccine jabs that would reduce odds of a future serious infection. They did a bit of a number on me each time for ~2 weeks, but had to be worth it, in case we caught covid again.

~2.5 years later, she returned to work (NHS patient support) on phased return in summer '22, really struggling but she mostly battled through.

Then during our first night on holiday in late September '22, my throat began to feel incredibly sore, my legs felt dead riding the hills around Longleat. Thought it was just a badly timed cold. Was same for my better half. I took second half of holiday very easy.

But returned home and remembered posts of throat feeling full of glass splinters with latest covid. Instant positive. Tested positive for over 2.5 weeks and felt like death warmed up despite no coughing at all. Somehow we didn't pass it on to family, better half shared car home with her mum that had been on holiday with us, sister visited for a day on hol and was fine too.

Fortunately, better half suffered less than me and recovered much quicker, returning to work.

I was left drained mentally and physically, was on sick leave for almost a year and then took ill health retirement September '23.

And here I am, still unfit for work and still massively down on my old cycling fitness and stamina numbers, but the criteria for ESA and PIP say I'm not ill enough for benefits. The IHR payment now gone, now it's time to start using the small amount of savings I built up over ~14 years as a postie.

Was I too cautious at work, especially in early '22, the only place I was exposed to a load of people caring more about getting the job done rather than their health by social distancing?
Would catching covid within a few months of my last vaccine jab have made a difference, rather than it being over 9 months later?
Was it my fault for not thinking covid on holiday without any coughing, doing too much relatively intense cycling up the hills?

Who knows. All I do know is I'm part of the statistics regarding people not working after covid. It could have been worse, many around the world lost love ones from covid, but who knew five little years could change my life and many others so much.
 
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What a crazy ~5 years it has been.

Oh how I laughed with my other postie colleagues when suddenly loads of Chinese students came back from Xmas '19 holidays and were ordering face masks galore, silly stuff like there was an impending bad Darth Vadar costume party.

Then I came home from work around 17th March '20 and as soon as I opened the door, I could hear my better half repeatedly coughing. Days later, she could barely breathe, if she went for a walk she had to stop and rest after a very slow 5mins max. After ~2 very anxious months, she recovered enough to return to work and by mid summer, she was almost her old self again.

While I had the worst headache of my life for ~24 hours around 20th March and then returned to cycling for fitness. On the one hand, great it's not going to affect me, but on the other worrying how vulnerable my better half was going to be.

Then the worst fear happened in November '20, my better half got covid again and it hit her almost as hard as the first time, but with much more pronounced fatigue especially if she exercised and she started long term sick leave Xmas '20 due to long covid.

Me? Just felt like a mild head cold, but took it easy, no problems.

In spring, summer and Xmas '21, we got our covid vaccine jabs that would reduce odds of a future serious infection. They did a bit of a number on me each time for ~2 weeks, but had to be worth it, in case we caught covid again.

~2.5 years later, she returned to work (NHS patient support) on phased return in summer '22, really struggling but she mostly battled through.

Then during our first night on holiday in late September '22, my throat began to feel incredibly sore, my legs felt dead riding the hills around Longleat. Thought it was just a badly timed cold. Was same for my better half. I took second half of holiday very easy.

But returned home and remembered posts of throat feeling full of glass splinters with latest covid. Instant positive. Tested positive for over 2.5 weeks and felt like death warmed up despite no coughing at all. Somehow we didn't pass it on to family, better half shared car home with her mum that had been on holiday with us, sister visited for a day on hol and was fine too.

Fortunately, better half suffered less than me and recovered much quicker, returning to work.

I was left drained mentally and physically, was on sick leave for almost a year and then took ill health retirement September '23.

And here I am, still unfit for work and still massively down on my old cycling fitness and stamina numbers, but the criteria for ESA and PIP say I'm not ill enough for benefits. The IHR payment now gone, now it's time to start using the small amount of savings I built up over ~14 years as a postie.

Was I too cautious at work, especially in early '22, the only place I was exposed to a load of people caring more about getting the job done rather than their health by social distancing?
Would catching covid within a few months of my last vaccine jab have made a difference, rather than it being over 9 months later?
Was it my fault for not thinking covid on holiday without any coughing, doing too much relatively intense cycling up the hills?

Who knows. All I do know is I'm part of the statistics regarding people not working after covid. It could have been worse, many around the world lost love ones from covid, but who knew five little years could change my life and many others so much.
I'm interested to hear if your retirement through ill health was recognised as being COVID related ? In my experience it's often glossed over and labelled as "a viral illness" or something non-specific. Have you continued to receive COVID vaccinations ?

Don't give up hope ... it's possible to make some recovery. I was bedbound/housebound for a long time but now walk 6-7 miles daily. But, by god, was it hard to receive any assistance through the NHS - I essentially treated myself.
 
How old are you to retire fully? Arriving at pension age having depleted savings is not very good, try to maintain an earnings link even if part time. Your wife's pension prospects are quite good though in the NHS.
 
Would catching covid within a few months of my last vaccine jab have made a difference, rather than it being over 9 months later?

Purely my opinion but from everything I've seen in this context the only difference seems to be for people who are in poor health to begin with, for healthy individuals at least with this virus and these vaccines it doesn't seem to make much odds.
 
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Purely my opinion but from everything I've seen in this context the only difference seems to be for people who are in poor health to begin with, for healthy individuals at least with this virus and these vaccines it doesn't seem to make much odds.
We'll never know for sure, but his vaccination status was probably immaterial. The issue is that he caught COVID three times between 2020 and 2022 - all nasty strains associated with a higher rate of post acute sequelae. He'll have a load of viral debris / spike protein as a consequence of that and a depleted immune system. His task now is to try and get of that debris - easier said than done.
 
The only time I've ever caught covid was a good half year after a winter jab, and while the actual infection was so-so, it did leave me with that tinnitus. I've since switched to getting a booster every 6 months and touch wood, covid hasn't bothered me ever since (or any other illness actually, haven't been sick since then and that's almost two years ago now. You win some, you lose some). Guess covid upgraded me in some ways. :D

Sample size of 1 ofc.
 
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I had the first vaccine against my better judgement. I then had the first booster which was different(pfizer). Within 10 minutes I had my first atrial fibrillation attack which lasted for 28 hours. I now suffer with regular attacks and have since been diagnosed with an Aortic root dilation. There is increasing evidence of heart related problems being attributed to the vaccine and covid itself so I'm convinced the vaccine has caused me permanent damage. Since then I've had covid at least 4 times I know of which gave me a really bad headache for a day and then just feeling weak for a few days. I wish I'd never had the vaccine and can't understand why anyone wants to keep having it. Ask yourselves why did the government change the law so people cant sue them if they had problems down the line like they had with the swine flu vaccine??
 
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I had the first vaccine against my better judgement. I then had the first booster which was different(pfizer). Within 10 minutes I had my first atrial fibrillation attack which lasted for 28 hours. I now suffer with regular attacks and have since been diagnosed with an Aortic root dilation. There is increasing evidence of heart related problems being attributed to the vaccine and covid itself so I'm convinced the vaccine has caused me permanent damage. Since then I've had covid at least 4 times I know of which gave me a really bad headache for a day and then just feeling weak for a few days. I wish I'd never had the vaccine and can't understand why anyone wants to keep having it. Ask yourselves why did the government change the law so people cant sue them if they had problems down the line like they had with the swine flu vaccine??

I keep having it because unlike yourself (unfortunately), I suffer no side effects from it. That is likely going to stay that way considering the amount of boosters I've had and nothing has happened. Covid on the other hand did give me an issue that hasn't gone away yet.

As for the swine flu vaccine, it is not confirmed that the adjuvant responsible for narcolepsy was actually the cause — narcolepsy cases were being picked up in China where that vaccine wasn't used, suggesting it was actually swine flu itself that was causing the problem.
 
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I keep having it because unlike yourself (unfortunately), I suffer no side effects from it. That is likely going to stay that way considering the amount of boosters I've had and nothing has happened. Covid on the other hand did give me an issue that hasn't gone away yet.

As for the swine flu vaccine, it is not confirmed that the adjuvant responsible for narcolepsy was actually the cause — narcolepsy cases were being picked up in China where that vaccine wasn't used, suggesting it was actually swine flu itself that was causing the problem.
I just question why we need all these vaccines every 6 months. We never did before. The old fashioned week long cold now seems to last for 3 weeks. Has our immune systems been compromised I wonder?
 
I just question why we need all these vaccines every 6 months. We never did before. The old fashioned week long cold now seems to last for 3 weeks. Has our immune systems been compromised I wonder?
Why a regular vaccine?

Because Covid changes enough to have a good chance of evading the vaccine.

The flu vaccine has always been at least two or three vaccines in one for different strains of flu that were expected to be the "big" ones that winter (as predicted about 6 months in advance), as the flu mutates on a regular basis and has multiple strains going around at the same time, covid is a bit like that in that it's fairly fast to mutate.

Also most of the other vaccines you had as children required at least 2 or 3 doses over anything from a few months to several years for "stable" virus's that don't mutate much, and there are a whole bunch of other virus's that if you're expected to be exposed to them you'll often get a booster vaccine.

Multiple doses of a vaccine or boosters are the norm rather than the exception, it's just that most people don't seem to pay much attention to the ones they had as a kid, or the yearly flu vaccine.
 
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I just question why we need all these vaccines every 6 months. We never did before. The old fashioned week long cold now seems to last for 3 weeks. Has our immune systems been compromised I wonder?
The answer to your question is yes. COVID, on average, degrades the immune system for approximately 18 months. The additional problem is many people catch it again before that period is up, so they end up in a cycle of constant immunosuppression. That leads to increased susceptibility to other infections and health problems eg. autoimmune diseases & cancer.
 
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Luckily never caught Covid, have had and will continue to have all the vaccines against it (and flu) that I can get.

Also luckily, apart from the obvious soreness of the needle *****, have never suffered any side effects either.
 
Some very early hope for a long covid diagnosis test.


I suspect when these kinds of tests come out, after the initial surge of people testing, those who feel they recovered should have the test. Because it's already been shown in other tests that some people thought they never had covid. But the test showed they did from signature debris.

When I first had covid (had it 3 times) I developed a skin reaction to shampoo. I never put 2 and 2 together at the time. I think I wrote about it in a shampoo thread on here.

That was nearly 2 years before I got covid that went into long covid.

It's very easy with covid that we mistake little niggles here and there to other things when it's covid that as caused damage.
 
Some very early hope for a long covid diagnosis test.


I suspect when these kinds of tests come out, after the initial surge of people testing, those who feel they recovered should have the test. Because it's already been shown in other tests that some people thought they never had covid. But the test showed they did from signature debris.

When I first had covid (had it 3 times) I developed a skin reaction to shampoo. I never put 2 and 2 together at the time. I think I wrote about it in a shampoo thread on here.

That was nearly 2 years before I got covid that went into long covid.

It's very easy with covid that we mistake little niggles here and there to other things when it's covid that as caused damage.

Why would you want to know if it causes you no problems and there is currently no cure.

Unless you want to vegetate on the sick for the rest of your life.
 
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