Because it is causing you problems.
There are treatments that can treat symptoms.
I see you're a victim of government messaging incompetence that you now dismiss anything covid related.
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion
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There are treatments that can treat symptoms.
I see you're a victim of government messaging incompetence that you now dismiss anything covid related.
Simon, billions of doses have been given since the vaccines were out.
Where are all the people dropping dead? That's right - they're not. You can't get much more tested than that. Even if you want to claim they released it in an untested state, it has without a doubt been 'tested' and proven now.
Pfizer's own post roll out monitoring data showed that vaccinated people were 40% more likely to have heart attacks (and strokes were up 20% amongst a host of other conditions) by the end of 2022 than unvaccinated people and it was still increasing with time. At the time they put it down to people getting vaccinated being more likely to get treated (I like the thought unvaccinated people with strokes were like, nah this is fine), but that would only hold true if there wasn't any noticeable uptick in people having heart attacks, in reality there's been a significant increase in people having heart attacks (about 40% oddly enough if I remember right). Given the lipid particles travelled pretty much throughout the body in a lot of people I'm not surprised it's caused a lot of health issues as it meant spike protein was being mass produced throughout the body, plus the multiple repeated injections are known to have caused issues with the type of antibodies that were produced (igG4 antibodies - poor quality antibodies that lead to tolerance of the virus rather than clearing it out), which cause further issues when people actually caught covid.
Then there’s the whole contamination issue on top of that as well.
Yes that’s the test sadly and I know too many people who have had blood clots since
And how can you be sure it was the vaccine causing this and not covid? It has been proven time and time again that the virus itself causes heart issues on a much greater scale than the vaccines do, but people conveniently brush that under the rug when it comes to the vaccines.
We've been waiting for years and nothing is happening. Seems everyone has moved on except the antivax.
Surely you would have saved yourself the time and effort of avoiding such a "pointless debate" by not posting in the first place?
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I had semi-rough reactions to each of the three vaccine jabs I had in '21, but I'd take another in a heart beat if offered free, I was annoyed when they stopped giving them to those aged 50+ just before I turned 50.
I still think that if I hadn't caught covid nine months after my last vaccine and it had been before the jab waned within ~3 months, I wouldn't have been stuck with long covid for almost 2.5 years now and unemeployed, with significant fitness and stamina issues.
People seem to forget covid itself can cause heart attacks. It's now predominantly seen as a cardiovascular condition.
One of the signs is an increased heart rate that can last for years. If you have no other symptom and assume you don't have anything wrong with you, if you start exerting yourself you're at risk of heart attacks and strokes.
There is also happy hypoxia were your blood oxygen levels drop but you don't feel it, until it's at life threatening levels.
One of the signs is an increased heart rate that can last for years. If you have no other symptom and assume you don't have anything wrong with you, if you start exerting yourself you're at risk of heart attacks and strokes.
There is also happy hypoxia were your blood oxygen levels drop but you don't feel it, until it's at life threatening levels.
Because it can prove very useful for to know you've had something if you get ill later on, or if they find out it can lead to an issue the doctors can keep an eye on it.
There are a bunch of virus's that are known to make it far more likely you'll get other problems later on, or more susceptible stuff.
For example we now know that a virus is basically responsible for cervical cancer (yay vaccine to help prevent (a) cancer!), we know that another one can cause long term issues with your immune system, and a bunch of others can hang around and cause secondary seemingly unrelated problems decades later (measles/shingles IIRC).
This doesn't take into account the virus's that we now know cause damage to organs that mean you have to be more careful with what you eat and what medications you take in the future such as the various ones that attack the liver as a primary target.
Given covid does damage organs albeit not always enough to have an obvious and immediate effect, knowing you've had it gives your GP's and yourself a head start on monitoring for anything that is found to be linked to it in the future, so if you get an odd result during a routine blood test it might shorten the diagnostic processes.
Basically, the more you know of your medical history the more you and your doctors can do to hopefully avoid future problems, or keep an eye open for the early warning signs.
It's pretty much the same reason medics ask about all sorts of personal and family history, knowing you've had X in the past (or your close relatives have) can be a very good indicator that you're at higher risk of it or something related to it.
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You don't need to worry about your test result showing you've had something, but it's far better to it for future diagnostic purposes than not.
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Because its undergone, y'know, trials. Its not something just made up in a lab and jabbed straight in people's arms though some russian labs were doing exactly that with their people with predictable results thats not something that happened here.
The trial is everyone who took it. Good luck
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