Crucial Anniversary: The results

Just reading through this thread has me very tempted......

I was looking at the ocuk value stuff to save money, but this looks like it could be very nice for me indeed.

Would be going in with a e6600, in a Asus P5B.

Is it worth the extra cost!
 
PinkFloyd said:
Just reading through this thread has me very tempted......

I was looking at the ocuk value stuff to save money, but this looks like it could be very nice for me indeed.

Would be going in with a e6600, in a Asus P5B.

Is it worth the extra cost!
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No :)
 
SidewinderINC said:
i'll agree on that, no point getting this ram if you're going to buy an E6600.

you'll want this for uber high FSBs and with the E6600 you'll just have to drop the multi down anyways, so might aswell buy the E6300 as the extra 2mb cache doesnt give double the price worth of benefits.
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This all assumes you want to run 1:1, with a relatively low (400MHz or less) FSB due to the 9x multi on the E6600.

IIRC 'Hipro' mentioned in the XS forums that with 965 boards (specifically the P5B-Deluxe) there are much greater benefits in running a divider, pushing the RAM as high as it will go.
This is likely also the case (although perhaps to a lesser extent) with most other popular chipsets for Conroe CPUs.
 
Certainly as far as I'm aware there's benefits on Intel chipsets to get as high as possible RAM clockrate if your board supports dividers that support RAM running faster than the FSB (my P5W DH didn't like it though).

On the 680i boards you may be better with tight timings and 1T though.

Jokester
 
Jokester said:
Certainly as far as I'm aware there's benefits on Intel chipsets to get as high as possible RAM clockrate if your board supports dividers that support RAM running faster than the FSB (my P5W DH didn't like it though).

On the 680i boards you may be better with tight timings and 1T though.

Jokester
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You using this ram?
 
nightic said:
This all assumes you want to run 1:1, with a relatively low (400MHz or less) FSB due to the 9x multi on the E6600.

IIRC 'Hipro' mentioned in the XS forums that with 965 boards (specifically the P5B-Deluxe) there are much greater benefits in running a divider, pushing the RAM as high as it will go.
This is likely also the case (although perhaps to a lesser extent) with most other popular chipsets for Conroe CPUs.
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This is true, Core2 seems to gain most from higher FSB on the whole. 680i gains more from lower FSB/1T running however this isn't possible on the 965/975 chipsets.
Some of the 965/975 boards do seem to have problems with certain memory dividers(or multipliers) which can make memory clocking a headache. The performance boost from running the memory at a higher speed isn't on the most part noticable (unless your checking FPS or pi times) and probably doesn't warrant the extra expenditure in this case.
Had the chip been a 6300 (or maybe 6400) then yes, the crucial maybe a better option, even then though for 1:1 running most boards (bar some of the 965's) are maxing ~450 anyway which is do-able for most 6400 with a timings drop/voltage boost.
If you've got a 680i board and pretty much any CPU, the unlinked memory clocking is highly useful, and the Crucial would certainly be a good choice.

PinkFloyd said:
While were on the discussion of high memory speeds being better, am I also correct in thinking that higher fsb = more performance because of bandwidth like with old AMD XP systems?
Had AMD64s for too long!
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Yea, on the most part higher FSB = better performance than lower with tight timings. Exception to this is 1T running on 680i boards. 1T + low latency = better performance than higher FSB and looser timings.
 
I've been following this thread for sometime and I'm interested to know if you can "feel" the difference between these various timings/speeds. I've always bought more expensive low latency memory (DDR) as I've had this fallacy that Windows/applications are more snappy/responsive. In the DDR2 world there seems a lot wider range on CAS & speed, is there any difference in "feel" between having a system at CAS5/2T/lowFSB and spending more money to improve these numbers?

If you can then I'll buy the Crucial today for an Intel system I'm building in the next few months (waiting to see if 650i boards are better option the P965). While if not I'll just buy some OcUK PC6400 value then (I've no interest in benchmarking numbers, just Windows/app/game performance). My money is on the latter but I'm interested if anybody has a view. Thanks.
 
Jokester said:
I would say the 8500, runs cooler at high clock rates but then it costs (or it did) 50% more or thereabout.

Jokester
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One thing I've noticed is that this Crucial gets pretty hot, mine are at 2.15V and are certainly a lot warmer to the touch then my old Corsair at the same voltage! I Don't use active cooling but they are next to the 120mm on my Ninja so should have a bit of cool air pulled over them....Would you recommend active cooling at ~2.1-2.2V?
 
800ster said:
If you can then I'll buy the Crucial today for an Intel system I'm building in the next few months (waiting to see if 650i boards are better option the P965). While if not I'll just buy some OcUK PC6400 value then (I've no interest in benchmarking numbers, just Windows/app/game performance). My money is on the latter but I'm interested if anybody has a view. Thanks.
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I feel the same way. £60 difference between the OCUK UK stuff and the Crucial 10th Ann stuff.
 
If you are running a 650i then there's not a lot of need for mega RAM as it has asynchronous RAM timing, but if you are using a S3/DS3/DS4 then the fact that you need to run the RAM 1:1 means that RAM that runs high FSBs is essential. The Anniversary RAM will almost certainly do 500FSB which translates to 3.5GHz on a DS3 with an E6300. If you compare it to the GeIL or GSkill it's a better comparison than to the OcUK RAM. That said - I bought the OcUK RAM :rolleyes:
 
WJA96 said:
If you are running a 650i then there's not a lot of need for mega RAM as it has asynchronous RAM timing
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Either that, or you can use the async timing to overclock your RAM to the max!

Depends upon your perspective..... RAM to give high CPU overclock, or overclocking the RAM for its own sake.
 
500Mhz 3-4-3-4 @ 2.3v (could do 3-3-3-4 with 2.4v, but I don't want my ram hot)
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Max 5-5-5-15 2.45v
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:eek:

holy crap dude, that's some extreme air overclocking, and some amazing chips, both CPU and RAM! is that Memtest/Orthos stable, or just 8M?

I cant wait to see what my 6400 and 10th Aniv can do on the RD600..... cant do jack all on my 775Dual-VSTA (it was just a temporary upgrade till i changed to PCI-E and DDR2 though)
 
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