Thats a bit different compared to a £30 (max) PC game..........
Crytek CEO - No more PC exclusives
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Thats a bit different compared to a £30 (max) PC game..........
I think Tek is looking at the trend rather than a black and white how-things-are. PC gamers expect much more out of a game in terms of longevity, this doesn't mean that there aren't quick half hour in-and-out games on the PC anymore than there aren't games on consoles that are out now and will be getting played in years to come (GTA IV is ar pretty recent example).
On the absolute surface of it length is irrelevant, it is about where the game will be a year from release, if you have just relased a game with 10-20 hours worth of singleplayer content... then it could be the best game in the world... but a year from then it will be forgotten, a nice memory for gamers looking back over their collection. Multiplayer is where games translate to potentially decade spanning life cycles, which is why you see a lot of the now most successful FPS games released being nothing but a multiplayer game, they are a shot in the dark, even if based on a prior success. You have may have made a game that people will want to play for years and will have a large player base to support it, or player numbers will dwindle from day #1, it may never truely die but only a handful of people will ever experience it. Then with your larger communities you have more of a chance of people whom are knowledgeable of coding / modelling / texturing etc coming together to create mods, which will only further drive that games community.
Half-Life is probably the best example of this, do you think if nobody had decided to pick up an SDK and go and make counter-strike and all the other amazing mods from HL that steam would exist? I'm sure Half life 2 would have but it wouldn't have been a fraction of what people anticipated, as whilst a lot were looking forward to the SP a good proportion were also thinking "I can't wait for [insert mod] to move to this engine". It's Longevity has translated to what is now a half dozen individual products, each having a sizeable amount of players, with more games on the horizon expecting to be smashes.
So Crysis? peoples critique of its storyline isn't relevant... what matters is that whilst it was a good game, the developers never gave the PC crowd a reason to play it beyond that few hours of singleplayer. I happen to like its multiplayer, but at the same time all I can see is how not much thought went into it... you have an engine capable of having vast conflicts play out over very large areas using air / land and sea vehicles. This didn't even have to be super suit orientated, there were US vs NK battles occuring simultaneous to the main story line, that the multiplayer could have covered nicely. The multiplayer however was a clear after thought, my two meager ideas for it alone are a drop in the ocean to what they could have done with it if they had wanted to, and if they had of? i'm sure Crysis could easily have taken off in the MP scene, the community it would have created and the array of mods that could have been spawned are all now never to be. It is a shame for us as gamers and them as developers, it would have provided us with an amazing experience and would only have driven their sales over a much much longer period of time.
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Shame, because I bought 2 copies of the special edition!
I really liked the game but also have a PC that can run it on very high with tweaks so im in the minority. I think they are looking at the COD4 model where its successful across all platforms, and not just PC.
If they had tried harder with copy protection they would be a better off as the demand for the game is still very high.
I really liked the game but also have a PC that can run it on very high with tweaks so im in the minority. I think they are looking at the COD4 model where its successful across all platforms, and not just PC.
If they had tried harder with copy protection they would be a better off as the demand for the game is still very high.
In software terms, yes I do.
Don't pull the "it's still stealing" argument because downloading software and taking physical stuff from stores is a completely different thing.
Well, at college we do, you can just pay about £80 for a student license but I'm just making an example.
Not everybody can pay for that, rather than wait they can just download it, I wonder where the temptation lies.
Only in terms of the risk of being caught... it is still stealing through and through. Gz on being a horrible pirating idiot, I hope one day you come to your senses and realise how much damage you're doing.
How'd you work that one out then? It's simple, if you can't aford it, you cant have it. Whats peoples problems??
I don't think it is, not at all.
Nobody gets shocked at illegal downloads though, people in my family would be disgusted if I went around nicking CD's from town rather than just using the internet.
Wrong.
It's the Internet.
Yes you can.
I'd like to point out I'm not promoting piracy, but I can't stand those who take the moral highground over it, I couldn't give a **** if a friend downloads an Xbox 360 game that I've bought days before.
But it's exacly the same though
lol.
Yeah, in theory it's the same thing but practically it just isn't.
That's all well said but people downloading PC games just won't care, I don't even game on the PC (anymore, bar TF2
) and always buy games I want for the multiplayer but to say I ever felt guilty downloading a game in the past would just be a huge lie.I don't really think they can fight it off, this is going to a problem for PC developers for a good while to come, PS3 is the best console so far when it comes to piracy but that probably will get cracked eventually.
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They gona start doing Console Exclusives, then crappily port them across to the PC afterwards, i can't wait. 
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It was not just the hardware which killed Amiga gaming, it was the problems with theft. The PC may very well go the same way and all our expensive hardware will be for nought. I bought Crysis as I do with all my games and it is rubbish really. COD 4 was much much better.
If I took a TV from a shop and just paid them the amount it cost them to produce it would that be OK? They aren't actually losing out so there isn't a problem is there?