D0 I920 and Gigabyte EX58 UD5 issues.

Just out of interest have you been having very one sided conversations with your fiancée about the above?

When my last build went t*ts up - each night I would rattle off all the possible components that could be at fault: what trouble shooting methods I had tried and the conflicting results that I had gained, etc…

Each night my wife would listen (well pretend to listen) and at the end of my succinct summarisation of events (she would call it rant) – she would ask if she was meant to understand any of that?

I, like you, don’t have a computer literate friend to phone to mull over possible solutions – so I end up mesmerising the wife with what she regards as technical gobble-dee-gook. Why is it that we never know anyone personally whose just as clued about computers as ourselves?

Still, I have to endure similar onesided conversations about ‘Britains Got Loons’ with that tw*tstick Piers Morgan so she gets her revenge…
 
Lmao...

That sounds only to familiar to me.. Even the "Britains got Loons" thing!! :D

I really wish that I knew people in my area who were into PC's as much as myself, it would be really handy TBH... at least I could loan components to further test my rig on my own...
 
Well, that's my new PSU and RAM ordered.. I had to buy from elsewhere though unfortunately...

I went with the 850w Be Quiet Dark Power Pro, and 3GB of Corsair XMS3 1333MHz RAM... total was around £197..

It should be arriving tomorrow hopefully, I cant wait!!!

I love getting new hardware!!!!!
 
Wahey! - I really hope it works out for you DavyBoy - you deserve a break.

I really like the BeQuiets and i doubt you'll be disappointed. I'm using exactly the same one on a friends i7 build in a few weeks (when the single PCB 295's come out).

Let me know how early testing goes and best of luck!
 
I will keep you posted on this thread Plec, and thanks again for being here to help me out man ;)

Fingers crossed it is just the PSU, as I can't be bothered with the hassle of RMAing goods... but if I have to I will obviously...
 
Any news, has it arrived and will you be installing tonight? (i think i'm almost as interested as you in finding out the answer to this problem)

BTW, I replied to your other post on the ‘Recommend Me a PSU’ thread to try and ease your concerns about your BeQuiet.

I’ve copied and pasted my reply here as it would be a shame for you to worry about the quality and performance of your order due to a badly coded calculator…

DavyBoy said:
@ Plec, thanks for posting this, that has put my mind at ease a little, but at the same time it has also made me a little weary about Be Quiet!!

That calculator is screwed up, they are basically trying to rip people off by pointing people towards their PSU calculator... They say that a GTX280 draws 700w?!?!
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I’m not convinced that the results are deliberate on their part – as some of those results are so outrageous that they’re actually damaging to BeQuiets reputation.

They’re a high end PSU manufacturer and, as such, know that ppl in the know will be buying their product. They would anticipate that these ppl would have a ball park idea of the wattage that they would need for their respective rigs. With this in mind, I would have thought that they would have geared their calculator around these facts. I would expect them to still be generous with there calculations but not to the extent of the comedy values that it's spilling out.

The above makes me inclined to believe that the coder, for the PSU Calculator, has unintentionally input the wrong set of values for x and y and thus you’re left with the equation:

Code: 
[b]
 x + y = ß     

Where ß = total b*ll*x[/b]

And even if it was intentional on their part – the above equation would still stand so relax and be confident in your purchase. ;)
 
Well, the new PSU and RAM was a total ******* waste of money, I installed the PSU, fired up my rig and loaded optimized defaults in the BIOS and then set the XMP profile on the RAM for 1600MHz, and then loaded up Vista and started up a Blend Test in Prime, and the rig BSOD'ed in an instant..

I went back into BIOS and set RAM timings manually, loaded up Windows then fired up a Blend test and yet again another BSOD, with the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL message at the top...

So then I decided to try out the new XMS3 RAM, and I get the EXACT same fu**ing thing...

Surely I haven't been sold a dodgy processor from OcUK???

At this precise moment, I just feel extremely upset, as I have spent well over £1500 on this build in total, and it doesn't even run stable at default settings...

What else can I try now???
 
DavyBoy said:
I did get an RMA number to return the CPU back to OcUK... Does anyone know how long an RMA number is valid for???
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Only have time for a really quick reply:

Firstly, the web note is usually valid for 28 days.

Secondly, ****!!! - i'm really sorry to hear that - will be back later...
 
The only thing I can do now is just send the mobo, RAM, and processor back for testing...

I am going to have a mess around with various different BIOS settings myself, but I personally can't see me having any success, this thing is *****D and thats all there is about it!!!!

I get really paranoid when things go wrong like this... I start thinking that the people I purchased the hardware from knowingly sold me dodgy goods..

I really thought that I was going to install this new PSU and fire up my system and for everything to be working perfectly...
 
Hmmm, just noticed something different about these crashes...

When Prime fails, it is now reporting this message:


FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4

Hardware Failure Detected, consult stress.txt file.

WTF does that mean exactly??

This is while trying to run a blend test if that counts for anything???

::edit::

OK, with the new XMS3 1333MHz RAM running @ 1066MHz, it appears to be running Blend Torture test fine.. But I don't want my RAM running below its rated speed, if I wanted 1066MHz RAM I would have bought some...

I just checked the date when I was given the RMA number from OcUK for my CPU, and it was 21 days ago today, so I am going to spend the entire night trying to get it stable with the Blend test with the RAM at its rated speed by trying different BIOS settings, and if I can't manage to get it up and running, then I am stripping this rig down and shipping off the CPU tommorow...

If however, there are no problems found by whoever tests the hardware, then I am going to have to return the mobo and RAM to the other e-tailer..

Why oh why didn't I just buy an OcUK overclocked bundle instead of buying the components separately?!?!

I used to love putting my own systems together, but this one has changed all that... I am beginning to hate the darn things!!!:mad:
 
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******* Bloodies!!!

I'm gutted for you - i was really rooting for one of those components to resolve your problems.

DavyBoy said:
Surely I haven't been sold a dodgy processor???
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You would be really unlucky for it to be the CPU but the way this build has progressed it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be the problem. (Was it an OEM chip?)

I’m hesitant to give any personal views on what may be wrong as you’re at a stage now where you have nothing else to test – so you’re going to have make educated guesses from now on.

My, guess, would be that it’s the motherboard but that’s only because the odds favour a mobo failure rather than a faulty CPU. I’ve never had a faulty CPU but I’ve received a number of faulty mobos.

Sorry my reply is so brief – I’m working on something else at the same time as browsing…

Keep me posted and best of luck
 
How are things going - any developments?

I’m guessing you're right on the verge of catapulting the whole rig against the nearest supporting wall.

DavyBoy said:
I am going to spend the entire night trying to get it stable with the Blend test with the RAM at its rated speed by trying different BIOS settings
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I suspect you would have conflicting feelings even if you managed to get it stable at default speeds using a blend of hybrid settings as you would probably go on to overclock the system at a later date only to experience the same problems again.

Have you considered the option of just giving yourself a complete break and rma'ing the component you feel is the most likely culprit?

You probably have a gut instinct by now as to what you think it is - it may be cathartic to just be rid of the remaining components and get them tested regardless of cost (you could return either the psu or the ram to cover your expenses – and put your fiancée’s build on hold for now?) The stress this may relieve would probably more than justify the cost...

I’m trying to think of something that would lift your spirits but like you I’m at a loss as to what to suggest apart from the above.

Best of luck Dave.
 
OK, I think I have got it now...

I re-installed the Dominator memory, and I have loosened up the RAM timings in the BIOS to 9, 9, 9, 26, 2T, and I changed a few of the advanced timings as well, and then fired up Prime and started a Blend test, and it went perfectly for 1 hour without any problems at all...

I know I will need to test longer to properly test for stability, but I think this might just have done the trick...

I will leave it running overnight with these settings to see whether it is stable or not...

When it was BSOD'ing earlier today it would happen only when running the Blend and Large FFT torture tests, and it would crash as soon as the test started running, but if I chose a Small FFT run it ran perfectly..

Anyway, I will run a Blend test overnight, hopefully it will still be going in the morning...

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Forgot to say, I also raised the QPI/VTT voltage up to 1.455v, it was people at Corsair who recommended playing around with this setting, and they said anything from 1.3v to 1.65v is considered safe...

I really hope that I have nailed this problem once and for all... Only time will tell...

As far as RMA'ing everything back for testing, I will give it a couple more days to see how things are with these looser timings, and if I still get problems I will ship them off... I will give it until Monday, paying for them to be shipped off isn't a problem.. I wont bother returning the PSU or RAM to get the cash for that... I will be holding onto them, as the RAM will go towards my Fiancees new rig, and the PSU will stay in my case, as it is a really sweet looking piece of kit!
 
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Forgot to say Plec, but yes, that testing was with the Be Quiet installed...

Well, those settings didn't do the trick after all, I let it run overnight, but it locked up my PC after 1 hour 30 minutes...

I am going to give OcUK a phone and double check whether the RMA number I was issued is still active, and if it is, I am going to ship the processor off, as someone else did suggest that it may very well be the memory controller in the CPU that is damaged...

If however that gets returned with no faults found, then I guess I will have to rip out the mobo as well...

Thanks for all your help Plec...
 
DavyBoy said:
Well, those settings didn't do the trick after all, I let it run overnight, but it locked up my PC after 1 hour 30 minutes...
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This may sound odd, but it's probably for the best as you would have never truly trusted the rig if you managed to get it stable using a mixture of hybrid voltages and frequencies just to get the CPU stable at stock speeds. At least you have a course of action now that doesn’t involve you stress testing both the pc and yourself…

DavyBoy said:
I am going to ship the processor off, as someone else did suggest that it may very well be the memory controller in the CPU that is damaged...
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With the components you have been able to test the problem does seem to be pointing towards a memory problem directly/indirectly either through the MB or, as you rightly say, the controller on the CPU itself.

It does sound like it's rma time - i hope you get a result with the CPU.

One last throw of the dice you may consider, as you’re going to have to pull the system apart, is setting the rig up outside of the case. Just connect the bare minimum to run your favoured bench test. Expect the worst, so you don’t get your hopes up, but it may be worth a try as you’ll be dismantling the rig anyway.

Best of luck.
 
I have already shipped the CPU off Plec.. I wish that I had decided to try this before I pulled the CPU out of the mobo...

Although with the stress this PC has caused me already, I personally think returning the goods to the seller for proper testing is the best idea, because I am on the verge of cracking up because of the hassles it has caused me!!!!

The CPU should arrive at OcUK shop tommorow morning as I sent it off on Special Delivery which cost me £7.60, which I thought was insane because it is only a tiny little package...

I could have sent it for £5 or thereabouts, but it wouldn't have arrived until Monday morning, but I want it to get there as fast as possible..

I noticed something strange when I removed the CPU from the socket, you know the little contacts on the underside of the CPU?

Well it looks as though some of those haven't been making contact with the socket pins, most of the contacts have a little pin ***** on them where they have been making contact, but there are a few that dont have any marks on them at all, and then there are others which look as though the pins have been right on the very edge of the contact...

But when I look closely at the mobo socket with a magnifying glass they are all perfectly in line and they all look like they are at the same height...

But surely if these pins weren't touching the processor would fail to work completely?

Or would something like this cause the type of problems that I am experiencing??
 
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