So if that's reflective of general opinion, and Martinez is given the job, the second he loses a match all the Liverpool fans will be trying to oust him for Rafa.
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So if that's reflective of general opinion, and Martinez is given the job, the second he loses a match all the Liverpool fans will be trying to oust him for Rafa.
To be honest I don't think any Liverpool fans really want him, probably about 25% would be content, but he's far down the list.
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Few good threads on RAWk dedicated to each manager, their tactics and history and number of people who were against Martinez now appear to be in his favour. Same goes for Rodgers who is getting quite a backing. Overwhelming favourite is still Benitez though.
Rafa bought Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Garcia, Agger, Reina, and rarely sold his flop players for a loss - Aquilani being the obvious exception. I can't imagine how much better off we'd have been with him in charge of that 100m last summer.
Did that happen to Benitez when he got the job in 2004 or Houllier before him? Neither were the fans choice when they got the job.
Rafa was a lot of fans first choice wasn't he? He was certainly mine as I distinctly remember dreaming of us signing Aimar, Baraja and co from Valencia.
I'm not saying that's what will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me considering Liverpool fans are going to be extremely concerned after what happened with Hodgson.
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Two things to point out, he may of bought those players, but he forced Alonso out, Garcia and from the looks of things he pretty much promised Torres could go but kept then didn't let him go the year before he did in the end.
Either way, what buys was Rafa making towards the end of his time at Liverpool? Why do people take one small point in time and randomly never consider that a manager has changed.
Who did Wenger buy years ago, Pires, Overmars, Henry, Vieira, Edu, Wiltord, Gilberto, Sol, Lauren and the list goes on and on. Who has he bought lately, Gervinho, Mertesacker, Diaby, Jenks, Walcott, Ramsey, Chamakh. Wenger WAS brilliant and won titles now he isn't buys a different type of player, completely lost his way in every area of the team.
Who did Rafa buy in his final year, Kyrgiakos, Johnson, Maxi(who beyond tap ins and for his full first two years, did nothing), Shelvey, Aquilani.... lol across the board. The year before, Keane, Reira, Ngog, Dossena, Degen .... yeah, all exactly on par with Alonso and Garcia.
So who would he have bought with 100mil considering his last 2 years of purchases, overpriced English players who aren't good enough, errm, **** cheap defenders...... isn't that Dalglish and Hodgson rolled into one already?
Anyway, as for reacting to managers..... Houllier didn't join as full manager and Rafa came from a winning side, neither came from what was regarded as a smaller team in the same league. Have you seen most of the comments about Roy being a small team manager before/during/after, and what are the majority of comments in this thread "Martinez is a joke he barely kept Wigan up" etc, etc, same attitude towards him as Hodgson had.
Which was generally speaking he's not a big enough manager. Rafa came in as Valencia league winning manager.
thats an awesome list
That doesn't include Skrtel, Lucas, Dirk, Johnson, Arbeloa and a few others.
Edit @ DM, Johnson was a good buy and Aquilani if are more recent managers didn't **** him off to Italy, he looked fantastic towards the end of that season when over his injury.
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Better to ignore his facts(the things he picks out of certain articles he believes to be true)
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Liverpool simply can't attract a top manager nowadays, you can't live on history forever. Why would Benitez come back? For the few months before his departure he looked like an absolutely broken man, why would he want to put himself through that stress yet again?
That stress was coming from the previous owners/BoD. Almost all of that organisation has now gone and I would suspect Rafa and FSG have more in common that not. Rafa was always keen to invest in young talent and he was highly critical of the Academy setup because it wasn't producing players capable of stepping into the first team.
Rafa has said he wants to come back to Liverpool because he loved the fans, club and has unfinished business.
IF Martinez is made manger I have a feeling he'd do a great job.
Liverpool fans; do not fret. Nobody expected Pardew to do such an exceptional job at Newcastle. Have hope. Managing Liverpool is a tiny bit different than managing a poor Wigan side.
Liverpool fans; do not fret. Nobody expected Pardew to do such an exceptional job at Newcastle. Have hope. Managing Liverpool is a tiny bit different than managing a poor Wigan side.
thats an awesome list
Apart from Garcia. He blew. Except for that goal against Juve.
And Chelsea.
More than once
.Also scored one if the best headers I've ever seen, can't remember who it was but near sure it was a European game, was disgustingly good.
Because he said he wanted to, probably a good reason why.