Watch as they scatter or imply that ‘hurr he’s just saying that to look better durr‘.
Sunk too much into their long pointless arguments to give up.
Danny Baker sacked
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Watch as they scatter or imply that ‘hurr he’s just saying that to look better durr‘.
Sunk too much into their long pointless arguments to give up.
There is a massive difference to admitting that it was an offensive tweet, than saying that it could be seen to be offensive.
I suspect in future comedy will only be allowed if it's directly targeted at rich, white, British, Christian, straight men.
Jokes regarding any other race/religion/gender/class, or even which could be misconstrued as being as being targeted at anyone else, will instantly be classed as a hate crime
Jokes regarding any other race/religion/gender/class, or even which could be misconstrued as being as being targeted at anyone else, will instantly be classed as a hate crime
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Even if being racist wasn't his intent, he still deserves to be sacked for displaying a severe lack of judgement and being stupid.
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I don't think anybody "came" for Danny Baker.
To describe him as a bit of a plonker seems remarkably generous; it appears that he is completely out of touch with current affairs and with attitudes that are considered unacceptable in the game of football which he claims to love.
His only possible justification is his advancing years and declining intellect and judgement - the BBC should give the contract to someone younger and more in touch with the 21st Century.
Yes, a bit of a plonker, insensitive and ignorant, whatever you want to call it, but straight to getting fired?! He's admitted it was a racist tweet, but not with racist intent - the people projecting that on to him are "coming" for him. He's made a mistake and owned it, if we as a society can't understand and move with these events without calling for heads then deeper and deeper the division will grow. By all means hound out actual hardcore racists (the ones I grew up witnessing who would attack verbally and physically based on how people looked, and seriously believed that was all that mattered), but accidental ones where a mistake has been made through stupidity just dilutes that cause.
I liken this to the people that think Pewdiepie is some sort of Hitler youth recruiting agent because he's made mistakes; despite that he apologised and accepted what he did was wrong there are still daily hit pieces on him for stuff he said years ago.
Still, everyone can see your past now, so if you are on these things it's pretty easy to dig deep, find something and present it out of context, bend it and contort it to encourage the masses to attack en masse, resulting in jobs being lost, relationships being destroyed and characters boiled down to some off the cuff tweet from 7 years ago without the life experience they may have gained in those years being taken into account.
I liken this to the people that think Pewdiepie is some sort of Hitler youth recruiting agent because he's made mistakes; despite that he apologised and accepted what he did was wrong there are still daily hit pieces on him for stuff he said years ago.
Still, everyone can see your past now, so if you are on these things it's pretty easy to dig deep, find something and present it out of context, bend it and contort it to encourage the masses to attack en masse, resulting in jobs being lost, relationships being destroyed and characters boiled down to some off the cuff tweet from 7 years ago without the life experience they may have gained in those years being taken into account.
This is the BBC though, and a BBC that's been under severe scrutiny for a number of high profile issues over the past few years and which had been relentlessly broadcasting royal baby news for a few days leading up to this. It simply isn't capable of doing anything other than delivering the blood sacrifice of firing the offender immediately, but the laughable point is really the way in which they then interrogate the individual's behaviour, and their own actions in firing them, and discuss it ad nauseam across lots of their channels.
The incident has changed my opinion of Danny Baker though. I had an impression that he was frightfully intelligent and creative but largely disorganised and structured. Anyone who follows him on Twitter will also know that, despite his past health problems, he likes a drink or two in the evenings. But it wasn't only his judgment in posting what he did, but principally his response to it that begins to tarnish his reputation. The way in which he addressed the matter today was far better, but way too late.
The incident has changed my opinion of Danny Baker though. I had an impression that he was frightfully intelligent and creative but largely disorganised and structured. Anyone who follows him on Twitter will also know that, despite his past health problems, he likes a drink or two in the evenings. But it wasn't only his judgment in posting what he did, but principally his response to it that begins to tarnish his reputation. The way in which he addressed the matter today was far better, but way too late.
Quite an ironic post for someone who has been suspended from here multiple times and then had to have all of their contributions specially pre-moderated for years for unacceptable content.
I’m genuinely shocked about how no one knows about Megan’s racial make up since such a big deal was about Harry marrying a mixed race, American divorcee. I have to interest in the royal family yet I still know about it as it was so heavily featured.
People keep saying it has nothing to do with racism when it clearly does. I don’t think he’s a racist man who goes around looking to intentionally offend people but I think he was being extremely naive.
I’ll never get on board with the ‘the ones who see the racism are the racist ones’. Very easy get out of jail card that holds no weight to me.
There’s not more to the story, it’s as simple as the BBC couldn’t be seen to keep him on after what he posted, there would be petitions for him to be sacked.
And I’m sorry, but I can’t believe anyone can look at Meghan and say she is white.
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There is also an assumption amongst his apologists that this was a one-off frustration with Mr. Baker's behaviour - perhaps he has had a long history of conflict with the BBC and they feel that he would be better off elsewhere?
Few comedians have an unlimited shelf-life, perhaps Mr. Baker's has been passed and the BBC feel that someone younger and more media and news savvy will appeal to their needed younger audience?
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It's total BS from the resident racist/islamaphobic crew.
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People claiming not to know about Megan either live in a bubble or are lying to fit their narrative.
You’ve summed up my take on this fiasco very succinctly.
I’ve looked at other forums discussing this, and I’m flabbergasted at the amount of ostensibly aware, (is the new term woke?), people who’ve put their hands on their hearts, and sworn blind that a) they had no idea that Meghan was mixed race, b) had no idea that she was an American divorcée, c) had no idea that she was pregnant, and d), thought that the announcement of a new Royal baby concerned William and Kate, as in “REALLY? She’s had another one?”
The snippet of info in all this that defies credibility, to me anyway, is the constant declaration that DB doesn’t have a mobile phone, I can’t prove otherwise, so I just have to accept that it may be true, but when a huge chunk of us would find it virtually impossible to conduct our mundane little lives without one, how does someone in his sphere, with gazillions of contacts and show biz stuff on his mind, manage to get through the working day without one?
DB has been portrayed as a guy who’s only interested in music and football, with no interest in the Royal Family, other than to take the **** out of them, this is the reason put forward by his supporters, and presumably him, for him being unaware that the Royal Baby had arrived!
Hands up everyone, in particular those that work in the media, who can say “Baby? Royal Baby you say?, Well I never!”
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Honestly i look at that photo and i just see a pretty girl with a nice tan. And as she is a celebrity and American that is a perfectly logical explanation to me so thats as much thought as i give the whole issue. There are lots of white people with fuller noses and thicker lips and rounder faces. What race she is is not the issue here it never was. Its only an issue to those with the agendas.
Harry is ginger. What if baker had posted a pic of a baby orangutan instead. It wasnt racist it was just a joke.
Harry is ginger. What if baker had posted a pic of a baby orangutan instead. It wasnt racist it was just a joke.
I used to watch Suits years ago, it would've never occurred to me that her mother was black, she basically just looks tanned (as well a complete babe). Then again The Rock's Mum is black and he just looks the same as his Dad who's Samoan.
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I never considered the rock's race either tbh. just thought he was american as he is a holywood guy. There is so much ethnic variation in movies and american actors that its just the norm now and goes unnoticed to me. Some people make a point of noticing and it is they who are racist or at least trying to exhibit positive discrimination.
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