Dashcams!

ShiWarrior said:
You mean you want a camera to detect when the car is being moved away or being hit when your not there?
you want a dashcam that supports parking mode

something like a thinkware F770 (might be a bit OTT for what u want, but give u an idea)
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Thanks for the recommendation. When I get more serious about having a dash cam I will look into something like that. The one I ended up ordering doesn't have the Parking Mode feature but I am hoping it will suffice for the airport parking. I just want to make sure they're not joyriding it or smashing it into pot holes as they drive it to their car park.
 
Another crash a few months after my last one. :mad:

Insurance company saying its my fault even though the guy drove on chevrons/mounted kerb to create his own lane to jump all the queuing traffic.
 
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Im not sure how to view that one. Id say he had the right of way but then if he went over chevrons he shouldn't be there, with the bus there also you couldn't see what was behind. Reading the highway code I would rule in your favor:

Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
  • If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.
  • If the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency.
 
Just because someone shouldn't drive on chervons doesn't mean it can't happen. If someone was driving on those chevons and the bus wasn't there, and you could see them, it wouldn't give you the right to pull out in front of them which is effectively what you did.
 
Classic example of non-defensive driving. Was he even on the kerb when he hit you? Looks like there could have been enough space for him to be solely on the road (albeit on chevrons) bearing in mind he was a couple of metres from the lane opening up. Sucks but no way I'd have been pulling straight out in front of the bus like that, perfect spot for a biker to appear
 
Skillmister said:
Classic example of non-defensive driving. Was he even on the kerb when he hit you? Looks like there could have been enough space for him to be solely on the road (albeit on chevrons) bearing in mind he was a couple of metres from the lane opening up. Sucks but no way I'd have been pulling straight out in front of the bus like that, perfect spot for a biker to appear
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Exactly this.
 
Hate to say but I agree with the others, you can clearly see the lane is splitting from 1 lane to 2 lanes, with lane 2 being empty the chances of someone coming up the inside of the bus to go into the empty would be very, very high.

Also broken white line means normally you shouldn't enter that area, but it's not illegal to do so.

What if it wasn't a car, but a motorbike? That gap would have allowed even the biggest bike down it, and again it's 100% legal for bikes to filter in hatched areas so long as the lines are broken. I've done it tens of times past police cars which haven't batted an eyelid. You then be dealing with knocking a biker off and the subsequent injuries they would probably have sustained.
 
Personally I think you're all being a little harsh. Yes, probably his fault, but at the same time, quite an easy mistake when someone is driving like the other guy was. Talk about not driving defensively.
 
Skillmister said:
Was he even on the kerb when he hit you? Looks like there could have been enough space for him to be solely on the road (albeit on chevrons)
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He was about 1/3 of his car on the kerb. It's not wide enough for cars to get through at that point, especially with a bus in the outside lane. That's why he only clipped me on the front right wing. He pulled out at speed to overtake the bus and queuing traffic in order to queue jump onto the A34 slip-road by cutting back into the 1st lane.

Just a few minor scratches on my car, the dent pushed out, and some very small alloy wheel scratches.
 
That's some seriously bad roundabout design. My initial thought was that the accident is mostly the poster's fault: that car could have been an emergency vehicle legitimately driving on the chevroned area. But the chevroned area is hidden from where the poster was by traffic. So he cannot be expected to anticipate a vehicle there, so it's not his fault.
 
Quartz said:
That's some seriously bad roundabout design. My initial thought was that the accident is mostly the poster's fault: that car could have been an emergency vehicle legitimately driving on the chevroned area. But the chevroned area is hidden from where the poster was by traffic. So he cannot be expected to anticipate a vehicle there, so it's not his fault.
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I'd say it's almost exactly the opposite. There is an empty lane that OP is heading for that is clearly on the far side of the lane that the bus is in. The chevrons are barely visible from OPs position so it can be expected to anticipate a vehicle there. You can barely see that it isn't a full lane but you can see there is a gap between the bus and the kerb, definitely big enough for a bike and possible big enough for a car.

Without hindsight I might not have expected a car to be there but I can be damn sure I'd have thought of the possibility of a bike coming through and edged out accordingly.
 
pcfarrar said:
He was about 1/3 of his car on the kerb. It's not wide enough for cars to get through at that point, especially with a bus in the outside lane. That's why he only clipped me on the front right wing. He pulled out at speed to overtake the bus and queuing traffic in order to queue jump onto the A34 slip-road by cutting back into the 1st lane.

Just a few minor scratches on my car, the dent pushed out, and some very small alloy wheel scratches.
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The video doesn't look like he was travelling 'at speed' and if he'd just mounted the kerb, how fast could he have been going? And unless he admitted he was then going to cut back in front of the bus then surely that's pure speculation? It looks like he was going straight so would have been moving into the vacant inside lane.

Again, as other's have said, that gap is plenty big enough for a bike. Now for me, as an experienced biker, I'd be checking for anyone pulling out into that gap in front of the bus as any gap in traffic is a potential risk with cars pulling into it, but some bikers wouldn't check that.

Quartz said:
That's some seriously bad roundabout design. My initial thought was that the accident is mostly the poster's fault: that car could have been an emergency vehicle legitimately driving on the chevroned area. But the chevroned area is hidden from where the poster was by traffic. So he cannot be expected to anticipate a vehicle there, so it's not his fault.
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I disagree. Yes it's pretty bad design, but the fact that the right hand lane is empty with queuing traffic in the left lane, and the single lane splitting into 2 means the first thought should be 'is there anything on the inside of the bus going into the empty inside lane?' not 'ahh there's not enough space for a car to get through so it MUST be clear and I don't need to check for traffic that I legally have to give way too...'

As others and myself have said. Bike.

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At best I reckon you might be able to get 50:50, or equal fault or whatever it is, as if he mounted pavement then that's on him. Still doesn't stop the fact the OP didn't give way to traffic already on the roundabout.
 
TallPaul_S said:
The video doesn't look like he was travelling 'at speed' and if he'd just mounted the kerb, how fast could he have been going? And unless he admitted he was then going to cut back in front of the bus then surely that's pure speculation? It looks like he was going straight so would have been moving into the vacant inside lane.
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He was cutting in further up on the A34 sliproad. It's a common thing people do here to jump the queue. He drove off after the accident and then pulled onto the A34 sliproad. You can see on your photo above if you match it to the position of the bus in the video that the only way for him to clear the bus is to mount the kerb with the raised stones.
 
I nearly did something similar on my way home last night. Waze took me through an area that I was unfamiliar with, told to turn left and then left again, turned left and then literally 2 cars length is a giveaway but with the crap weather I never noticed but luckily as it was dark I saw the headlights of a car so slammed on the anchors. The other driver didn’t even give me a glance from what I could tell but the gap from what I saw was bloody tight.
 
V_R said:
Surely that is more reason not to just pull out blindly then?
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It's usually further up that they queue jump not at this spot. I've used this junction nearly every weekday for the past 20 years and this is the first time anyone has driven up on the kerb to jump the queue here.
 
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