Death Stranding

Meh, this game is really cheesing me off.

The enemies are infinitely spawning now, but they are stupidly weak, it's just a mindless slog if you engage any of the camps. Waves and waves and waves of weak, infinite enemies that can't hurt you but take forever to put down. It's just annoying. Super, super annoying.

After knocking out like 50 of them (and still they kept coming) I got fed up and tried my hardest to kill Sam by throwing him into a really tall gorge over and over. I couldn't even kill him. After the 2nd fall the BB thing is dead/broken but Sam just doesn't care. So I engaged a group of enemies and didn't fight back and they take *forever* to hurt Sam at all.

And this is on Normal. It's such a pointless game. I seriously wonder what people get from it.
 
It's also one of the most horrific grinding games I've ever seen.

Unless you want to walk everywhere (this may even be the most sane option, frankly) then you have to build roads. Building a mile of road takes over an hour of resource gathering.

The vehicles are both slow, short range, and useless off road because the whole world is now covered in boulders. Because, reasons. The whole world is one giant field of boulders, to force you to spend 1 hour per mile gathering 6 different kinds of resources.

No, ***** you, Kojima. **** you and your ****** griding walking simulator.

e: @melmac You were absolutely right. It's cringe-inducing, zero gameplay, grind-fest garbage. Not for me.
 
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I swear with some design choices Kojima is literally trolling.

Like the stealth kill move, that repositions you and turns you around 180 degrees. And if you use it near to a ledge, 50% of the time at the end of the un-cancellable animation you've fallen off the ledge. It's genuinely amazing how many things in the game exist purely to pee the player off. Like the "skip" button not actually skipping the cut-scenes (because you have to see them, every single time; Kojima wills it...)

Or the map display that under-estimates the resources needed to complete a building, so when you rock up with the amount shown, it's not enough...
 
Just uninstall it already!

Got this free on EGS last year, however I can’t ever see myself bothering to install it.
 
I've tried to like this game but just can't.
Just too much slow and numb game play, especially at the beginning.
 
Any game that forces me to have the music on in an instant uninstall from me.
If I want to listen to music whilst I play I put something on that I want to listen to.

I managed 24min of Death Stranding before the forced music was too much for me and I uninstalled and would have gone for a refund but it was part of a Humble Bundle monthly IIRC :(
 
I started playing again today (chapter 3).

No idea what's going on. Started building roads. Ran out of resources.

Someone had left a bike, that was nice. It ran out of battery though, that sucks.

Honestly, bar the admittedly pretty landscapes and wacky effects, what the hell enjoyment is here?
 
mrk said:
Laughs in Kojima

I played it for 4.5 hours on Steam before deciding that nothing makes any sense and enough was enough.
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I've been playing it some more. It just gets worse. Not better.

Today they asked me to deliver a nuclear weapon on foot, with a motorbike. The mission is such that if you got faster on the bike than walking speed, the bomb blows up. Sometimes the bomb blows up anyhow, no matter what you do. There's no explanation it just goes off and you restart the mission.

You then have to take the bomb through hostile territory. If you get shot, the bomb blows up. If you go too fast, the bomb blows up.

When you reach your destination an angry, obnoxious woman tells you to **** off for your trouble. You then get told she's critical to your mission. You have to "make her come around" by delivering 100 mangoes and 50 turkey sandwiches with extra cheese, or something. Then she'll have an epiphany and... wait, why am I delivering a nuclear bomb, again? Nobody even mentions it as you throw it onto the receiving conveyor belt. Nobody explains why after delivering food and medicines and supplies you're now strapping nukes to your bike.

The obnoxious woman tells you that your employer is the baddie and you should feel bad for making deliveries... whilst taking receipt of a nuke? From a man on a motorbike? Why? How? What is even going on? Who wrote this garbage?

Honestly, it's just perplexing why anyone thought this would be fun.

There is a pretty accepted theory that Kojima actually hates his players and wants to test the limits of their patience. How much can he throw dirt in their faces before they'll stop playing his games?
 
Fubsy said:
I started playing again today (chapter 3).

No idea what's going on. Started building roads. Ran out of resources.

Someone had left a bike, that was nice. It ran out of battery though, that sucks.

Honestly, bar the admittedly pretty landscapes and wacky effects, what the hell enjoyment is here?
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Building roads sucks but dealing with the endless ravines and boulder-strewn landscapes sucks a bit more.

The amazing thing is that later on, all the roads you build (with hours of gathering and transporting the 6x resources you need), will start to degrade and need repairs.

Then you need to go round to all the roads and gather more materials to repair them.

So not only are you the mail man/uber driver, you're the damn road repair crew too. It's absolutely designed to be a chore.
 
It is THE worst game ever made, and I'm a die hard Kojima fanboy, the anger/rage this game gave me the 3 times i've wasted 12-17 hours into it, is like nothing I've ever felt before. **** you and your Postman Pat simulator. WTF was he thinking.

The whole social media simulated likes ******** as well, just absolute nonsense, that sort of **** was lame enough in WatchDogs 2...

Why this couldn't of just been a film judging by how good the cast/cutscenes is in the trailers, just beyond me. How people enjoy this is beyond insanity, they must be brain dead and VERY into repetitive self abuse.

The music is also rubbish.

I remember watching the reviews thinking this is the most "we've taken a back hander" I've ever seen! Which is so not needed considering Kojima usually makes masterpieces, the fact there is a sequel coming too, makes this even more unplayable, as you'll just have to do it all again... AGAIN!

What a WASTE of such a good looking engine!

I'm so glad it's not just me that thinks this is utter dog ****!
 
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I stand by the fact that if you can watch it being played by somebody on YouTube (and I’m never interested in such content usually), it’s a really good ‘game’. That was my first experience of it, and I remember raving to my wife about how good the story was and felt bad that she’d missed out on it.

So when it came to the Game Pass I downloaded it straight away and started playing through it on the big TV for her to watch. And my God was it a chore :D if it were possible to just focus on the main story and have it done relatively quickly, it would have been a really good experience. But you even have to sink a few hours in before the plot really picks up (but boy does it)!
 
Fubsy said:
I started playing again today (chapter 3).

No idea what's going on. Started building roads. Ran out of resources.

Someone had left a bike, that was nice. It ran out of battery though, that sucks.

Honestly, bar the admittedly pretty landscapes and wacky effects, what the hell enjoyment is here
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Utterly agree, I got as far a dropping a parcel off somewhere for no reason, on the way I came across some black tar which I just walked past with no consequences and then the game asked me to walk back to where I'd just come from, presumably to pick another box up...

I translated that to 'please uninstall the game'....which was the fastest quest I've ever completed.
 
FoxEye said:
I've been playing it some more. It just gets worse. Not better.

Today they asked me to deliver a nuclear weapon on foot, with a motorbike. The mission is such that if you got faster on the bike than walking speed, the bomb blows up. Sometimes the bomb blows up anyhow, no matter what you do. There's no explanation it just goes off and you restart the mission.

You then have to take the bomb through hostile territory. If you get shot, the bomb blows up. If you go too fast, the bomb blows up.

When you reach your destination an angry, obnoxious woman tells you to **** off for your trouble. You then get told she's critical to your mission. You have to "make her come around" by delivering 100 mangoes and 50 turkey sandwiches with extra cheese, or something. Then she'll have an epiphany and... wait, why am I delivering a nuclear bomb, again? Nobody even mentions it as you throw it onto the receiving conveyor belt. Nobody explains why after delivering food and medicines and supplies you're now strapping nukes to your bike.

The obnoxious woman tells you that your employer is the baddie and you should feel bad for making deliveries... whilst taking receipt of a nuke? From a man on a motorbike? Why? How? What is even going on? Who wrote this garbage?

Honestly, it's just perplexing why anyone thought this would be fun.

There is a pretty accepted theory that Kojima actually hates his players and wants to test the limits of their patience. How much can he throw dirt in their faces before they'll stop playing his games?
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Are you going to carry on?

Unsure at this point whether I should join in the self-flagellation. 15 hours in. Knowing it doesn't get any less tedious...
 
MoNkeE said:
I stand by the fact that if you can watch it being played by somebody on YouTube (and I’m never interested in such content usually), it’s a really good ‘game’. That was my first experience of it, and I remember raving to my wife about how good the story was and felt bad that she’d missed out on it.

So when it came to the Game Pass I downloaded it straight away and started playing through it on the big TV for her to watch. And my God was it a chore :D if it were possible to just focus on the main story and have it done relatively quickly, it would have been a really good experience. But you even have to sink a few hours in before the plot really picks up (but boy does it)!
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How could you even watch something that repetitive/bland/boring though, I mean playing it is dire, but at least you're involved, the idea of watching what is it like 35-72 hours to finish it, jesus christ, just NO!

I put I think 12 or 17 hours into it the last time I tried to play it... The plot went nowhere? Other than we're lying the presidents dead and now we're going all the way to somewhere else bolder filled.

I did consider watching all the cutscenes to see if it actually went anywhere, given the decent cast shown in the trailer cutscenes, but I reckon even that might be a waste of my time and miss out bits of the plot?

I genuinely think this game is an inside joke and a **** take, designed to see how dumb/gullible people are and if they'll just buy anything because of the name attached to it...
 
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FoxEye said:
@melmac You were absolutely right. It's cringe-inducing, zero gameplay, grind-fest garbage. Not for me.
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Yeah, It's a game for a very niche audience.

FoxEye said:
I've been playing it some more. It just gets worse. Not better.
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Surprised you are actually still playing!! I played for ages too because I thought I was missing something, that it would eventually click. Nope. Boring!!


Even the Story which starts off as half decent, becomes convoluted nonsense.
 
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