Dell S2716DG - Dells first G-sync

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I tried the settings first (what I bought the monitor for)

144hz 1440p Gsync enabled.

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Then tried Normal and Fast no change here I walked up to the same tree and blasted it with my gun...The explosion produced millions of tiny lines...Like corduroy...Obviuolsy not this colour bit fine lines all over the explosion..

It also happenes walking up to an ammo box.....walk forward..the edges ofthe box get corduroy...stop they go away ...move corduroy...stop they go away.

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Then I disabled Gsync....Still got the lines

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Then I disabled gsync and enabled ULMB the lines were reduced but still there....And it was to dark and looked Crap.
 
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setter said:
Cant say I've seen that on the swift at 144Hz. Mouse movement is very smooth. When I first got the monitor, very laggy mouse movement was the first thing i noticed. Then found the refresh rate issue.
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Only get noise on white backgrounds...moving the mouse about the forums no noise ...move the pointer on google white noise just after the arrow about 5mm
 
The main issue you raise here is something I refer to as 'interlacing pattern artifacts'. Check out my review of the XL2730Z and PG278Q which use similar panels to this - it affects them and I don't see why it wouldn't affect the Dell. At least it affected this units I tested and is also reported by various users. This sort of thing - https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/XL2730Z-artifacts-pistol.jpg.

The 'white noise' is surely overshoot. You shouldn't use the 'Fast' mode, it's rubbish to put it bluntly. Refer to the TFT Central review - http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm.
 
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easyrider said:
PCM2

That's exactly it...:(


Do you have a link?

Why is fast response even an option then ?
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Sure - https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-xl2730z/. It's always the case that monitors with variable pixel overdrive control have modes that are 'faster' than others. The reason they are faster is because they surge huge amounts of voltage to try to speed up the pixel transitions. It doesn't come without consequences and are largely there so that manufacturers can claim '1ms' or provide settings which blind wannabe pro gamers can use because they're 1337. :)
 
PCM2 said:
I provided a link. It's always the case that monitors with variable pixel overdrive control have modes that are 'faster' than others. The reason they are faster is because they surge huge amounts of voltage to try to speed up the pixel transitions. It doesn't come without consequences and are largely there so that manufacturers can claim '1ms' or provide settings which blind wannabe pro gamers can use because they're 1337. :)
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I read the rog swift I couldn't find the bit about pixel interlacing ....

Surely not all Rogs do it ? It looks ****....
 
Ugh I guess I should have waited; mine is on the way and will arrive tomorrow.

It seems the vertical lines issue affects all AU fast-refresh TN panels. I guess I'll test it properly and see, but if it's nearly as bad as Easyrider describes I'll have to send it back. What a shame, after the QC issues of the Swift I was really hoping that Dell would have provided the monitor I was waiting for. Especially as, for the same price, this one comes without the gaming extras.

With that said, I've just read PCM's review and I'm praying that I fall into the camp of people who don't notice!

In fact, is it possible I get the same issue with my current monitor, the Asus VG248QE? I can honestly say I've never noticed it, so if the panel DOES suffer from interlace pattern artifacts that gives me a little bit of hope.
 
I've just read the TFT Central review of the Dell. Slightly disappointed regarding the contrast ratio of 876, although I suppose that's to be expected if it's a similar AUO panel used as the Swift.

Is the contrast ratio delta between this panel and, say, the panel used in the XB270HU noticeable? I know the XB270HU is IPS but that panel's contrast ratio is 1000.
 
Well the monitor arrived this morning but sadly I've not really had time to test it. Couple of things to note from my limited time with it, though. I'm coming from the VG248QE (1080p, 144Hz, 1ms).

First, the good.

The resolution is awesome, simple as that. I was told the jump from 1080p to 1440p wasn't particularly big, but to my eyes it's a huge improvement. I've gained 3" of diagonal space and despite that the screen looks much sharper. Coding / working on this, with my Asus in portrait alongside, is going to be great.

The colours, again to my eyes, are gorgeous. I'm using the multi-coloured lion wallpaper (sure you guys know the one!) and side by side with the VG248QE there is a huge difference. Perhaps the res helps, but the image pops out so much more than on the Asus. I don't think TFT Central have uploaded their ICC profile yet, but I just tweaked the values in the Nvidia Control Panel using the Lagom contrast / gamma / black / white tests as a guide.

The look of the screen is to my liking too, the stand and base are darker than in the images, and the whole thing looks quite classy. The stand seems strong and has a good level of height adjustment. I needed to put 2 thick books under my Asus to get it to the correct height; that's not required with the Dell.

The OSD is clear and easy to navigate. I was worried it was going to be like the Asus again (guessing which buttons do what) but using the screen to display their function is a nice touch.

I have no dead pixels, and, from my limited testing, no real issue with the vertical line issue. I've tried moving quickly over dark backgrounds and scrolling fast through content but thus far I haven't noticed any anomalies.

And...the bad.

I seem to have a band of light bleed at the very bottom of the monitor. It measures about 1cm in height and extends all the way across the bottom of the screen. It's almost like a light shadow of where the Windows taskbar would sit (if it's not hidden!) and I can only really notice it on a black background. I'll try to take a picture of it later. Honestly I'm a bit sad about it as BLB was the one thing I wasn't worried about - thought that was a trade-off IPS panels had to make!

Also, as reported by Easyrider, the screen moves around when using the buttons to control the OSD. I don't think it actually moves the positioning at all, but it is a bit disconcerting to see the monitor roll about each time I press a button. Shame as otherwise the stand seems solid.

So I'm a bit undecided on what to do. I'm hoping to get time to play some games on it tonight and see what I think. I want to test G-Sync and see if I have any of the vertical line issues in-game. I did boot up SFIV quickly and it was glorious...vibrant and detailed in a way I've not seen before. I suppoe that's not going to show the issues described in previous posts, though. I also want to test ULMB, as this will be a key feature for me to use with SFV. G-Sync won't be needed in that but keeping blur under control will be important.

I'm hoping the backlight issue will fade and no further issues appear. If that happens I'll definitely keep the monitor. If the glow doesn't disappear and I find any other issues it's going back. If the glow stays but no other issues arise...well I guess I'll decide after a few hours of game time!
 
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Having looked at a widescreen IPS by dell for over a week...TN is grainy in Windows...I'm not going TN again...panel uniformity on this dell is not acceptable at this price point either....

At least with the windscreen was worth the money abeit the bleed issues...

This panel just feels cheap.
 
khemist said:
Have you tried turning down the brightness?, the stock setting melts my eyes.. i had mine down to 10.
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Initially I turned it down to around 35 in the OSD. Then when I went through some tests on Lagom.com I switched to using the NCP to get access to a gamma control. On that I think my brightness was around 40. That gave me a decent performance in all the tests including black and white. Maybe I'll try lowering the brightness right down and tweaking gamma and contrast to compensate. Cheers for the tip, I'd be so happy if I can get rid of that line.

Trying to think of what to play to test G-Sync. Witcher 3 or Fallout 4 are both good options I guess. Might check out some benchmarks then buy one to use for testing later!
 
I was hoping to try G-Sync and ULMB tonight but something is seriously wrong somewhere. In NCP I cannot make any changes actually take effect - even changing refresh rate is impossible. At one point I couldn't enable SLI, although changing compatibility and running as admin fixed that one.

I've managed to get G-Sync activated again (uninstalled drivers then re-installed) but it's too late to play now. And there doesn't seem to be any way to change the res to a ULMB-supported one. I'm actually reluctant to turn G-Sync off again now in case I can't get it back on!

Not really the monitors fault...I don't think...but it has made for a very underwhelming first day with it. Will try again tomorrow.
 
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