Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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Interesting updates from this twitter account:

Inc this tweet from a few days ago - I guess they're checking the social media of every potenitla juror:

A juror from today... thought Floyd had been shot, WTF????

Lastly on the hefty pay out the defence are now using to try to get the trial moved and/or delayed - the prosecutor's son is on the city council and was involved with that pay out:

In other news, there are now 9 jurors:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...auvin-trial-live-half-jury-seated/4642884001/
In total, nine jurors have been selected to serve on Chauvin's trial. Five of the jurors identify as white, one as multiracial, one as Hispanic and two as Black, according to the court. Seven of the jurors are in their 20s or 30s, and two are in their 50s.
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Also, stated openly in court:
The first potential juror questioned Monday was excused after immediately noting headlines Friday about
city leaders approving a $27 million civil settlement in Floyd's death — something the potential juror said indicated to her as the city being unable to win the lawsuit. The issue is something Chauvin's attorneys raised as potentially preventing a fair trial.
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Nasher said:
They have a lot more power. Those groups have contacts in the police and other public offices. Probably a lot more of them than BLM and they many are well armed.
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If white supremacists do have lots of support from "the police and other public offices" (which I very much doubt is true) it's very well hidden and not currently used or usable.
 
platinum87 said:
You have to fill out a form which asks you to tick what applies.

So you are simply quoting someone. This is to protect PC people from being accused on social media because they are unable to tell idiots to **** off.
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Read your comment 5 times now trying to get what you actually mean, Protect PC people? PC people are the ones who should be saying **** off?
 
Reality|Bites said:
Read your comment 5 times now trying to get what you actually mean, Protect PC people? PC people are the ones who should be saying **** off?
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Politically correct people.

If i am such a person i cannot use any descriptions about you, as you would then become outraged, along with some random people on social media

I would then start crying a bit, and then post an apology about not considering your crackhead viewpoint.
 
Skunkworks said:
I don't know the ins & outs of it, but a judge can direct the jury to return a speciifc verdict. It was mentioned in some of the jury selection videos.
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What probably wasn't mentioned is that the jury can ignore any such directions. Jury nullification is a contentious issue, but as far as I know it still exists in USA law. Also in UK law. I vaguely recall a case from my youth in which a jury acquitted someone who was absolutely guilty, no doubt about it. The jury decided that the law was wrong, so they acquitted the person anyway despite knowing they were guilty...

...yes, got it. Clive Ponting. I had Pontin's holiday camps in my memory, but I knew that wasn't it :)
 
It's pretty sad that this will only end badly for them regardless of what is found to have really happened.

That they will allow the risk of public outcry to trump true justice is the real tragedy... not the death of an apparently overdosing criminal at work.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
It changed mine and my wifes perspective last night so I linked it on Facebook and loads have changed their view.
This footage should have been released immediately.
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If you think the main media players would release that to give a balanced perspective and let the public make up their own mind.....then you don't understand how they work now.

There are very few real journalists left. The TV tend to frame things not as facts or impartial news anymore but in terms of a social or emotional perspective. The cynic in me thinks they simply do this as a business model to make the story divisive and inflammatory so you come back for more. Everything has to be packaged into a tiny segment so it's very hard as a viewer to explore anything slowly and rationally.
 
MookJong said:
If you think the main media players would release that to give a balanced perspective and let the public make up their own mind.....then you don't understand how they work now.

There are very few real journalists left. The TV tend to frame things not as facts or impartial news anymore but in terms of a social or emotional perspective. The cynic in me thinks they simply do this as a business model to make the story divisive and inflammatory so you come back for more. Everything has to be packaged into a tiny segment so it's very hard as a viewer to explore anything slowly and rationally.
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Well I've known how they work for years, I was involved in newspaper lies in the early 80s involving the spy Andrew Bettany.

What I've also noticed and this seems to have got worse are the inflammatory headlines and then of course peopel on Facebook will reply to only the headline and not the story which has got all the facts in.
Even somebody like Ultimate Guitar will write a headline eg "What Paul Stanley really thinks about Gene Simmons and his wife" and then I read the responses where people are having a go at Paul Stanley because people think he is tearing Simmons and his wife apart. You read the story and Stanley says "He is a brother to me and she is a sister in law".
I really hate this side of the Internet and some stories end up here where the OP didn't read the story and commented on the headlines.
 
dowie said:
Interesting updates from this twitter account:

Inc this tweet from a few days ago - I guess they're checking the social media of every potenitla juror:

A juror from today... thought Floyd had been shot, WTF????

Lastly on the hefty pay out the defence are now using to try to get the trial moved and/or delayed - the prosecutor's son is on the city council and was involved with that pay out:

In other news, there are now 9 jurors:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...auvin-trial-live-half-jury-seated/4642884001/


Also, stated openly in court:
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No way will he get a fair trial.
 
dowie said:
Interesting updates from this twitter account:
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Leaving aside whether he is guilty of the charges or not. How is he ever going to get a fair trial? Honestly, I don't think he will if a jury is involved. I think the best thing to do is with 3 judges who have a higher chance of being impartial. They then come to their conclusion individually and whoever gets 2 or above that's the way it goes.
 
Even probably being biased as I am I cant see a jury trial being particularly fair. Given how corrupt/poor/rigged the US justice system can be as well.

Also how is he charged with 3 different, though similar, things?
 
Unless something is done. I can see Minneapolis turning into another Detroit.

The big stores have already left and now they have mom and pop stores.
These was mostly run by immigrants who watched their shops smashed and trashed.
And the high taxes won't help.

And giving $27 Mil of tax payers money before the trial even began will hurt.
 
deuse said:
And giving $27 Mil of tax payers money before the trial even began will hurt.
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I really don't get this, this looks like Minneapolis officials have already decided Chauvin is guilty.
This is like me getting a Pre Action Disclosure letter at work and I just send them £50,000 with an acknowledgement that we will now look at their claim.
 
I haven't watched the footage yet but from what people are saying, the "I can't breathe" comment first happened before he was placed on the ground? Was he restrained of did he have anything around his neck at this point?

If not, this shows just how much control the media have over people. Paying attention to THAT as a takeaway is far more important than some potentially-misguided anti-racism movement.
 
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