** Diablo 4 Thread **
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I'm pretty glad I decided to skip this and bought LE instead. People have certainly had their money's worth out of D4, if you place even a very low monetary value on your time per hour. But that's not game metric I am interested in when assessing how good a game is, especially one that is meant to be an ongoing experience, what "I got my money's worth" tells me is you played it plenty and enjoyed your time with the game, that's very different from how good the game actually is. It's very easy to get your money's worth per hour out of any game really,
what's 30-40 hours?
I think D4 has ended up pretty much where many expected it to land, a good game until end game. But unfortunately for D4 the endgame is the game, that's how ARPG's work. Now we'll see what Blizzard can do, when what they're best at - a well-polished campaign with great cut scenes, a good story with all the Lore they have to fall back on etc - is pretty much irrelevant to the player-base.
what's 30-40 hours?
I think D4 has ended up pretty much where many expected it to land, a good game until end game. But unfortunately for D4 the endgame is the game, that's how ARPG's work. Now we'll see what Blizzard can do, when what they're best at - a well-polished campaign with great cut scenes, a good story with all the Lore they have to fall back on etc - is pretty much irrelevant to the player-base.
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Its what feels like an endless dungeon grind, much like D3.
There are things to do in the world, much like bounties but it's tedious and the loot is 99.99999% hot garbage, even world bosses are a dumpster fire of loot.
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Ive stopped playing until they add some more story content, the gear/lvl grind is too boring for me.
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Act man's vid will go down well on the D4 Reddit.
Level 61, WT3 and still enjoying it. Started doing NM dungeons recently. Not sure how many hours I've put in, but normally play about 2-3 hours every night. Haven't used any guides either so the build is my own and not just a copy and paste off a youtuber.
If they can pull D3 back from the brink of despair, I'm sure D4 can eventually have a pretty addictive endgame for a few weeks to a month each season.
Still, there's always the fear that Blizzard will take it in a different direction.
Still, there's always the fear that Blizzard will take it in a different direction.
Act man's vid will go down well on the D4 Reddit.
haha, agree with a lot of what he's saying, don't think I'll touch S1
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It looks like its been designed around engagemnent metrics to me - no surprise really.
Let me guess some responses. "Diablo has always been like that" and "It's an ARPG what do you expect"Act man's vid will go down well on the D4 Reddit.
This was Blizzards chance to take Diablo to the next level but they seem content catering to a niche audience which just ends up with a small playerbase after most people get fed up and move on. I don't think i've come across a game made by such a big developer that accepts such mediocrity and lazyness from its playerbase.
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Well, look further than WOW.
It doesn't look like it's been very well thought out, but its made an absolute fortune so IDK any more. That's the power of an IP for you. I was thinking about the Total War Series, nowehere near as big an IP as Diablo sure, and putting aside the Warhammer games where they have completely gone to town and been incredibly ambitious, the Histrorical games are worse than they were 20 years ago, and incredibly shallow to boot. Baby's first TW.
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Making a ton of money just makes the dev lazy, why should they bother when they've already made the money? Might as well leave this one on seasonal maintenance mode and move onto next one. That's why so many smaller devs can produce such gems.
The main question i ask about Diablo 4 is "Is Seasons going to be good enough for me to return and reroll another character". Well from what i've seen released about Season 1 probably not. Maybe this genre just isn't for me and i accept that and will move on i guess.
Yup, you're right with that, be it book, tv show, movie or game, doing it plenty and enjoying my time with it , is the only criteria I use. I'm not looking to get married to anything, too old for that
5 years from now if they replace the designers they may have a arpg that feels good to play.
I uninstalled it as its so bad.
anyhow, let us hope GGG with path of exile 2 get us there in 18 days
Well I wouldnt hold out too much hope seeing as you had more fun levelling to 25 in Diablo 4 than in PoE.
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Yup, you're right with that, be it book, tv show, movie or game, doing it plenty and enjoying my time with it , is the only criteria I use. I'm not looking to get married to anything, too old for that
Yeah that's fine for a shallow appreciation of a game. If you play a game for 30 hours then you're going to like it 95% of the time by those easy to meet critieria. That's not saying a whole lot though.