Did anyone else get Sky for F1?

Skeeter · 13 Mar 2012 at 10:22

deuse said:
New name for Skeeter please mods...it's now SkyBoymurdoch

Lol. I love how not firing piles of abuse at Sky somehow makes me Murdochs biggest fan

I'm actually in the running to take over News International since James resigned

. And surely my name should be BSkeeterB?

In all seriousness though, I was always going to be getting Sky anyway, way before the F1 deal was announced. I'm not in a Freeview HD area and I can't get VM. I've managed to fill 50% of my Sky+ box in just 1 weekend so far, and the Motorsport season isn't even in full swing yet

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The repeated posting of the same wild claims or massive over reactions is getting a bit tedious though.

PlumpMonkey · 13 Mar 2012 at 10:25

I originally said "hell no!", but thats partly as I thought when it was announced that it would be on Sky Sports and theres still no way in hell im paying extra for that.

But in Feb Sky sent me a "Come back to sky for 50% off for 12 months" deal. So ive ditched the Virgin Tivo box for ~£30 a month and gone back to Sky HD for 20 a month for 12 months.

So now I have the F1 channel and Im saving 10 quid a month compared to what I had before

I promise to complain as I settle down to every race that "This should be on the BBC" to make me feel better about it though

GravyMonster · 13 Mar 2012 at 12:08

I can understand all this hate for Sky, however it's worth remembering that the BBC went to Sky and asked if they were interested in the sharing deal, not the other way around. It's also worth noting that the BBC cut F1 in an effort to lower costs, and also that it has just spent £22m on producing an XFactor 'talent' show clone, not to mention the much publicised, costly and pointless closure and moving of offices.

The BBC management are ******* morons.

Sagalout · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:27

I've dropped my Virgin broadband down from 100MB to 60MB and added on the Sky Sports package, so all in all its only costing me £6 a month extra, and I'll watch a couple of footy games a month too. Real shame its not HD, but the Virgin SD picture via HDMI isn't terrible, and I'll still watch the BBC races in HD.

4T5 · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:32

I saw the TV ad & was like **** it that's it I'm in.
Then I saw the price on Virgin, 20+ quids I was like GET TO **** !!!
Now I am

***** ******* ******** **** ***** & ******* **** ******** ***. :mad:

TaKeN · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:38

Blame the BBC not Sky lol, too many whiners in here.

No single amount of Whining would have the BBC sticking to their F1 Deal. Sky pricing is what is it, it has never been cheap :\

Sagalout · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:41

I'd have happily moved everything across to Sky as I don't particulalry like Virgin's customer service, but their broadband is slow and Virgins catchup TV on demand is so far ahead of Sky its not funny

Nismo · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:53

Sagalout said:
I'd have happily moved everything across to Sky as I don't particulalry like Virgin's customer service, but their broadband is slow and Virgins catchup TV on demand is so far ahead of Sky its not funny

Ditch the TV and keep the VM broadband, that's what I did.

Also, I know what you're saying about the On Demand stuff on Sky, but it's getting better and soon there should be as much content as VM as they will be getting iPlayer stuff etc.

deuse · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:54

4T5 said:
I saw the TV ad & was like **** it that's it I'm in.
Then I saw the price on Virgin, 20+ quids I was like GET TO **** !!!
Now I am

***** ******* ******** **** ***** & ******* **** ******** ***.

If you had a letter telling you of a price rise,then you have 30 days to cancel because VM have breached their T&C

4T5 · 13 Mar 2012 at 13:56

deuse said:
If you had a letter telling you of a price rise you have 30 days to cancel VM have breached their T&C of the contract

Wasn't like that mate I just saw the ad so then looked for the price on Virgin. I can afford 20 a month I just think it's to expensive so they can **** off.

JonnyGLC · 13 Mar 2012 at 14:10

People need to stop moaning about Sky, it was the BBC who made the deal.

Kerming · 13 Mar 2012 at 14:32

A random name said:
People need to stop moaning about Sky, it was the BBC who made the deal.

Bernie said he wanted to boost the price...... BBC said naa **** you. Bernie went to sky, sky said alright but the BBC still had the contract. neither of them are at fault...... just a stupid little OAP who needs to be shown the back door.

ps3ud0 · 13 Mar 2012 at 14:39

Think its more:

Bernie wants more money; BBC needed to cover this in the license fee; UK Government cap the license fee forcing BBC to re-evaluate costs; F1 obviously first to go; BBC realise an opportunity to keep it off other competing terrestial channels and partner with Sky while keeping token coverage, so still a terrestial exclusive; Sky realise how cheap this deal is for them and long-term ability to cut BBC out of the picture altogether; BBC and Sky take deal to Bernie; Bernie wonders 'Does this mean I get more money by kicking up a stink with minimal effort'; ?; Profit...

Personal opinion decides who are the evil-doers...

ps3ud0 :cool:

deuse · 13 Mar 2012 at 14:50

4T5 said:
Wasn't like that mate I just saw the ad so then looked for the price on Virgin. I can afford 20 a month I just think it's to expensive so they can **** off.

..hows your allotment these days?

I have found a few pages on the net for us who not got sky. I will post them on sat morning.

Skeeter · 13 Mar 2012 at 15:12

Kerming said:
Bernie said he wanted to boost the price...... BBC said naa **** you. Bernie went to sky, sky said alright but the BBC still had the contract. neither of them are at fault...... just a stupid little OAP who needs to be shown the back door.

Waaaaaaaaaaaay off.

The BBC had a contract at a fixed price that ran until 2014 (ish, I'm struggling to remember).

The BBC had their licence fee frozen by the government so had to cut costs. Dropping F1 was 1 of many options on the table. They realised they couldn't just 'drop' the F1 contract as Bernie would sue them for at least the value of the contract anyway, so it wouldn't save them any money.

The BBC went to Sky and started talking about a deal that would reduce the BBC's costs without breaking the contract. It was only at this point that Bernie got involved. Obvioudly once Sky got their foot in the door they were able to outbid anything any other channel could offer.

But the bottom line is this situation is not the result of anything Bernie did or Sky trying to muscle their way in, its entirely down to the Government freezing the TV licence fee and forcing the BBC into making cost cuts.

deuse · 13 Mar 2012 at 15:52

Skeeter said:
Waaaaaaaaaaaay off.

Yes you are(again)
Bernie said that it took only two hours to do the contract with sky
this is why bernie was making mistakes about when the bbc would show F1

He said it would start 1 hour after sky(he got that wrong)
then he said the BBC would show the full race(he got that wrong
The BBC could have gone to channel 4\5 or ITV to do a deal but did not.

Sky can never have the sole rights to F1 in the UK because of the teams F1 Concorde Agreement.
‘The Commercial Rights Holder may not permit Formula 1 events to be shown only by pay television in a country with a significant
audience if it would materially adversely affect audience reach in that country.’”

Oh and people pay for their tv licence a year in advance so the F1 fans have already paid for 2012

Pete19s · 13 Mar 2012 at 15:54

Kenai said:
It'd be interesting to see how many of the people saying 'HELL NO, NEVER' when this was first announced have now just signed up anyway, I suspect it's rather a lot of you

As already mentioned, I did. Mr Sky is here right now :eek:

Anyway, I'm going to enjoy my cashback and £100 M&S voucher

Skeeter · 13 Mar 2012 at 15:59

deuse said:
Yes you are(again)
Bernie said that it took only two hours to do the contract with sky
this is why bernie was making mistakes about when the bbc would show F1

I never said anything about how the Sky/Bernie negotiations went. I merely stated how the whole situation started.

He said it would start 1 hour after sky(he got that wrong)
then he said the BBC would show the full race(he got that wrong

See above comment

The BBC could have gone to channel 4\5 or ITV to do a deal but did not.

Who they speak to is up to them? I think the BBC were inteligent enough to make sure they spoke to people who could afford it. And we all know that Channel 4 made a bid, all the information was posted online.

Sky can never have the sole rights to F1 in the UK because of the teams F1 Concorde Agreement.
‘The Commercial Rights Holder may not permit Formula 1 events to be shown only by pay television in a country with a significant
audience if it would materially adversely affect audience reach in that country.’”

A Concorde agreement that expires at the end of this year, and is easily broken with a cheque book anyway.

Oh and people pay for their tv licence a year in advance so the F1 fans have already paid for 2012

You hadn't paid for 2012, 2013 and 2014 by June 2011 had you? As that was the period the original BBC contract covered (actually, it might have only been to 2013).

But as people have said, we have been through this hundreds of times and nothing ever changes. People who are bitter or angry about it going to Sky will just continually complain about it.

deuse · 13 Mar 2012 at 16:06

Skeeter said:
Who they speak to is up to them? I think the BBC were inteligent enough to make sure they spoke to people who could afford it. And we all know that Channel 4 made a bid, all the information was posted online.

So you agree that everyone in the UK could have watch F1 for free on channel 4?
This why people say "the bbc sold us owners\viewers down the river"

Mr Men · 13 Mar 2012 at 16:16

BBC blocked any C4 bid I thought, so yeah they are pretty much to blame for it being in Sky as they did not want to share with C4.