Disgusting display of Racism

Tefal said:
There are many scholarships and bursaries and grants for kids from low income households.
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That's not relevant to what we're talking about. We're on about the disparity in who is getting chosen.

Tefal said:
There are 9x as many white kids as black kids in that situation as the stat keeps getting repeated (seems obvious given there's 9 times as many white as black households in the uk) so there is 9 times as many white kids as black kids eligible for those grants.
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Where is your evidence that there are 9 times as many white kids as there is black kids in that situation? Unless you show evidence of were you got that number from then I'm calling it made up.

Tefal said:
But that isn't the case is it?

Unless a new law got passed recently that's what I think the SC people would call a strawman right?

And fake position made up to agree against easily?
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So you've never heard of positive discrimination? You've never seen how companies are encouraged to setup quotas for the people they hire? Why does there have to be a law?

If you tick all the boxes you'll get good publicity for your company. This is really basic stuff. To argue that it doesn't happen seems odd.
 
There's no such thing as positive discrimination, it's just racism (differential treatment based on race), the left are really really good at fooling people with words. It was positive discrimination when Adolf Hitler favoured blonde Aryan Germans and persecuted the Jews, he got away with it because Nazi propaganda had all of the German's fooled that the Jews were a privileged racial group in Germany and oppressing the average German through capitalism. Look where that eventually lead.

Like others have said, if some rich white people started offering benefits to only white people there'd be massive uproar about racism and rightly so, so why is it acceptable when reversed?
 
BowdonUK said:
That's not relevant to what we're talking about. We're on about the disparity in who is getting chosen.



Where is your evidence that there are 9 times as many white kids as there is black kids in that situation? Unless you show evidence of were you got that number from then I'm calling it made up.



So you've never heard of positive discrimination? You've never seen how companies are encouraged to setup quotas for the people they hire? Why does there have to be a law?

If you tick all the boxes you'll get good publicity for your company. This is really basic stuff. To argue that it doesn't happen seems odd.
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Uk population 60m

Ethnic breakdown:

80% white
5% Black

Poverty rate:

20% white
40% Black

= ~ 9.6m white people in poverty
= ~1.2m Black people in poverty

Therefore there are nearly 9x as many white people in poverty.

It's just how the UK is.
 
The Running Man said:
Uk population 60m

Ethnic breakdown:

80% white
5% Black

Poverty rate:

20% white
40% Black

= ~ 9.6m white people in poverty
= ~1.2m Black people in poverty

Therefore there are nearly 9x as many white people in poverty.

It's just how the UK is.
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Then black poverty should be a much easier problem to fix, let's crack on! Once sorted surely Stormzy will open up the scheme to everyone.
 
bloodiedathame said:
You just described the British government.
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The British Government excludes black people from claiming benefits?

This "discussion" is amazing (well actually depressingly scary), you've got racism doesn't exist on one side and racism is the answer to racism on the other. Both sides are arguing 2+2=5 and they full on believe it, without a flinch. WTF.
 
Fubsy said:
Then black poverty should be a much easier problem to fix, let's crack on! Once sorted surely Stormzy will open up the scheme to everyone.
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Truth talks around family planning, benefits of the nuclear family and the dissemination of the 10 commandments would probably fix a lot of the problems meaning less reliance of benefits would be a good way to begin tackling the problem.
 
The Running Man said:
Uk population 60m

Ethnic breakdown:

80% white
5% Black

Poverty rate:

20% white
40% Black

= ~ 9.6m white people in poverty
= ~1.2m Black people in poverty

Therefore there are nearly 9x as many white people in poverty.

It's just how the UK is.
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I dispute the figures. There is more than just white and black people in the country.

But if I accept those figures then my argument is that while 1 black person gets help, less than 9 white people are getting help.
 
BowdonUK said:
I dispute the figures. There is more than just white and black people in the country.

But if I accept those figures then my argument is that while 1 black person gets help, less than 9 white people are getting help.
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Not much to dispute tbh

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I took into account that other ethnicities are growing faster than white British since the 2011 census.

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BowdonUK said:
Where is your evidence that there are 9 times as many white kids as there is black kids in that situation? Unless you show evidence of were you got that number from then I'm calling it made up.
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Intuitive reasoning.

Someone else has done the maths for me but it was pretty obvious. Did you really think the UK wasn't massively majority white or something?

It's the UK, its a fairly safe bet that most things affect all equally because we lack any heavy systemic racism.

If white people are x time more likely than black people odds are it's a ratio of population thing, because someone has decided to use the stats in that way.

If you're dumb enough to be taken in by it it's not my fault
 
BowdonUK said:
I dispute the figures. There is more than just white and black people in the country.

But if I accept those figures then my argument is that while 1 black person gets help, less than 9 white people are getting help.
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There are public granta for all.

This is a private individual making a grant for people like him.

Feel free to chuck 27k of your own money to sponsor a white kid.

Literally no one is stopping you.


Heck could even be your own kid

Wait......


Ohhhhhhhhh
 
Looks at the numbers of working class people at Cambridge and then look at the number of black students, working class people in general need more help than black people. Racist.

And black people arent even under represented at Cambridge anyway if you consider the amount of them in the UK population to how many go.
 
BowdonUK said:
You've never seen how companies are encouraged to setup quotas for the people they hire? Why does there have to be a law?

If you tick all the boxes you'll get good publicity for your company. This is really basic stuff. To argue that it doesn't happen seems odd.
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Well a private company is free to do as it pleases if it thinks it will increase profits.

Remember people are racist and they will spending at companies that hire thier race.


I just want my shares to go up.

But yes to address the point it only matters if its law, if a company wants to hire a black white or blue person because they think its beneficial its thier choice
 
The Running Man said:
Uk population 60m

Ethnic breakdown:

80% white
5% Black

Poverty rate:

20% white
40% Black

= ~ 9.6m white people in poverty
= ~1.2m Black people in poverty

Therefore there are nearly 9x as many white people in poverty.

It's just how the UK is.
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Obviously there will be more poor white people because they make up a greater proportion of the population? Their rate is half what it is for black people - that's the point.

I mean all people in poverty are deserving of support, but we have a population and an electoral system that keeps in power the party of rich and corrupt people who will never improve their lives, and is also quite racist.

As for a private person doing what they want with their own money - I don't care. There's enough rich people funding their own children through private school and university into a life of privelege at the expense of others and nobody seems to have a problem with that.
 
The Running Man said:
Uk population 60m

Ethnic breakdown:

80% white
5% Black

Poverty rate:

20% white
40% Black

= ~ 9.6m white people in poverty
= ~1.2m Black people in poverty

Therefore there are nearly 9x as many white people in poverty.

It's just how the UK is.
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Based on your figues there are proportionally twice as many black people in povery as white people so proportionally greater assistance needs to be provided to black people.
 
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