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NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Huang hints at the possibilities of DLSS 4
NVIDIA's Jensen Huang hinted that future versions of DLSS, presumably DLSS 4, will be able to generate textures and objects.
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Almost guaranteeing mrk won't stick with his 4090 now (assuming the feature is locked to 5000 series). I mean he is already talking about wanting a Kingpin card, so he is getting himself ready
What he should do is sell his 4090 to me for £999 when he upgrades. That way I win two bets in one
Would not mind driving down to his place to see his setup and see how he moves his mouse about in person. Whenever I watch his videos the way he moves the mouse about always looks unnatural
It will be another very sought after RTX feature if it works anywhere as well as upscaling, hdr, reflex, frame gen etc. Hopefully it won't be locked to 50xx if it is working of the same methods as what dlss does already. Will be interesting to see how it impacts vram usage as if using higher res. textures then in theory it should increase but at same time, it sounds similar to the way dlss works with rendering at a lower res to upscale to a higher res. which in returns reduces vram.
The First Descendant GeForce Game Ready Driver Released
Optimize your experience in the newest games and updates, and accelerate frame rates with the addition of DLSS 3 in PAYDAY 3.
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Ray reconstruction in the first descendant
But you can do that at the higher res too for even better IQ
Don't tell me you won't want to jump at a 5160x2160 and will stick with 3440x1440 forever. I know better
Well yeah of course I will switch to 5160x2160 as it will be the only upgrade from a 34" 1440
And as we all know, the superior res/AR to 4k/16.9 DLDSR and DLSS in combination is such an underrated feature for those not on 4k displays.
Doing some testing in ghost of tsushima out of curiosty:
- DLSS quality at 3440x1440 with max textures looks ok but the whole game assets aren't fully loaded in because it doesn't detect a 4k+ res, vram is about 7-8gb dedicated, fps is around 100
- DLDSR 1.78x and dlss performance with max textures looks much better since textures are being loaded in fully now, vram goes to about 9GB dedicated, fps is around 80 fps
- DLDSR 1.78x and dlss performance with high textures looks much the same as the second option but vram drops to like 7gb dedicated, fps stays about 80 fps
So both option 2 and 3 provide much better IQ than native and dlss quality @ 3440x1440 even with reduced textures whilst arguably being more efficient.
I think dldsr and dlss performance mode looks better than on my 4k 55" oled too. Suppose I am technically rendering at a higher Res than 4k with dldsr though.
More tech press need to do videos on dldsr and dlss.
Performance wise, it seems to be game dependant though e.g. the last of us, DLDSR + dlss performance performs better than both native 3440x1440 and dlss quality @ 3440x1440.
Doing some testing in ghost of tsushima out of curiosty:
- DLSS quality at 3440x1440 with max textures looks ok but the whole game assets aren't fully loaded in because it doesn't detect a 4k+ res, vram is about 7-8gb dedicated, fps is around 100
- DLDSR 1.78x and dlss performance with max textures looks much better since textures are being loaded in fully now, vram goes to about 9GB dedicated, fps is around 80 fps
- DLDSR 1.78x and dlss performance with high textures looks much the same as the second option but vram drops to like 7gb dedicated, fps stays about 80 fps
So both option 2 and 3 provide much better IQ than native and dlss quality @ 3440x1440 even with reduced textures whilst arguably being more efficient.
I think dldsr and dlss performance mode looks better than on my 4k 55" oled too. Suppose I am technically rendering at a higher Res than 4k with dldsr though.
More tech press need to do videos on dldsr and dlss.
Performance wise, it seems to be game dependant though e.g. the last of us, DLDSR + dlss performance performs better than both native 3440x1440 and dlss quality @ 3440x1440.
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It depends on the game I find. I'll never use just native TAA/no aa even at 4k/dldsr as it just looks crap with either being too blurry, aliasing, noticeable ghosting, shimmering/jaggies so will always use DLSS to reduce those issues but for games where higher res. textures aren't loaded in at <4k, DLDSR is an absolute must have. It's weird how it works as horizon forbidden west, the difference isn't really there but other sony games like ghost of tsushima, difference is huge especially on character models.
DLSS 3.7 is remarkable, I had not compared DLSS Performance (preset E) against DLAA yet, but here we go:
And in motion:
Where my natives @
The main difference here is that even DLSS Perf has more detail thanks to Ray Reconstruction which is not available using DLAA or any other native AA render.
I have been saying this for a while now!
Ever since dlss 2.6/2.7 or something version, dlss performance is very good and far more usable than the early 2.x days.LOL I see your post is getting hated on reddit @mrk 
And seems the same old over there with no one going to do testing themselves to post evidence to debunk you, instead it must be user error Such a shame people just can't seem to handle facts/evidence when it comes to these things.
BTW, for those who use DLDSR, make sure the smoothness is set to 100% too as that removes the nasty sharpening.
And seems the same old over there with no one going to do testing themselves to post evidence to debunk you, instead it must be user error
Such a shame people just can't seem to handle facts/evidence when it comes to these things.BTW, for those who use DLDSR, make sure the smoothness is set to 100% too as that removes the nasty sharpening.
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Smoothness is the sharpness setting/filter that gets applied when using DSR/DLDSR i.e. how smooth objects edges.
The default setting of 33% is a high sharpness, with 0% being the strongest and 100% being off (although not fully off as there is still some sharpening happening). Some like sharpening and think they are getting extra detail with this but they aren't, also, over sharpening can increase how noticeable artifacts are which is one reason why FSR looks awful as it is increasing the visual artifacts like fizzling even further, same happened with dlss when nvidia enabled sharpening to be on but thankfully they removed this.
@Nexus18 in Doom Eternal even with DLSS 3.7 and Preset E, DLSS Quality seems to show more issues than native as I mentioned before. It's likely due to the age of the engine and being in Vulkan.
1: Reflections off the gun barrel for example are lower fidelity using DLSS Quality
2: There is slightly more jaggedness using DLSS Quality than native
Other than that there's very little resolving difference between native and DLSS Quality in this game
IMGsli:
DLSS Quality:
Native 4K:
Ignore the black level in the shadows in the top one, that was just Photoshop's export.
They maybe have patched/improved it then as dlss was noticeably better imo 2-3 years ago. Have you got to the church level yet? There is also foilage on that map which would be a good test.
Pretty much confirming what a few of us have been saying for a while now! 4k DLSS perf better than DLSS quality and native 1440p
For those still on 1440p, use DLDSR and dlss perf, it really does give you a better IQ over 1440p dlss quality/native.
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I think this video confirms what I have also been saying about 4k over 1440p, motion clarity is noticeably better there. From 1.10 onwards, dlss 4k looks a lot cleaner/clearer than the others even though it is slightly less fps than 1440p dlss quality.
For those still on 1440p, use DLDSR and dlss perf, it really does give you a better IQ over 1440p dlss quality/native.
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I think this video confirms what I have also been saying about 4k over 1440p, motion clarity is noticeably better there. From 1.10 onwards, dlss 4k looks a lot cleaner/clearer than the others even though it is slightly less fps than 1440p dlss quality.
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Exactly. And that is a bloody old game too
It's using TAA based methods, the new era of AA, that's why
TAA really does require 4k now, it solved a lot of problems TAA but it also took a step back on a few areas too, thankfully most games aren't like RDR 2 AA options though, probably the worst game there is to showcase all AA methods 
LMAO, the lovely folks over on reddit are tearing your reddit post apart @mrk
Funny thing is I get these guys complaints but these are the guys who think shimmering, aliasing, jaggies etc. is perfectly acceptable
Funny thing is I get these guys complaints but these are the guys who think shimmering, aliasing, jaggies etc. is perfectly acceptable
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