Actually been reading about Creatine and it maybe being good for people with Epilepsy.
Do you take any supplements?
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Don
Started taking this years ago and gave me a new lease of life post football/hiking recovery.
Usual old people stufff like vitamins, D and cod liver oil as well.
I also do the occasional electrolytes as well, particularly post strenuous exercise.
If you have a healthy diet, supplements should not be required unless you have a diagnosed condition. On the other hand, for the vast majority of supplements out there, there probably isn't any harm in taking them in moderation, so if you have the spare cash to burn and it makes you 'happy' then why not?
As an example, I do not medically need any supplements. However, a friend recommended marine collagen to make my hair grow thicker. My beard has always been a bit thin and whispy, not exactly a problem (medical or otherwise) but certainly a situation that has been improved by the marine collagen supplements, so I continue to take them.
Vitamin D could be a good for certain people during winter. I personally have gone for installing UV lamps in some parts of my house so my body can continue to make VitD naturally, and I happen to like the aesthetic effect. If I didn't, I'd probably just take the supplements.
I also take cod liver oil for joint recovery after playing sports. Seems to help.
As an example, I do not medically need any supplements. However, a friend recommended marine collagen to make my hair grow thicker. My beard has always been a bit thin and whispy, not exactly a problem (medical or otherwise) but certainly a situation that has been improved by the marine collagen supplements, so I continue to take them.
Vitamin D could be a good for certain people during winter. I personally have gone for installing UV lamps in some parts of my house so my body can continue to make VitD naturally, and I happen to like the aesthetic effect. If I didn't, I'd probably just take the supplements.
I also take cod liver oil for joint recovery after playing sports. Seems to help.
Do you have any idea how much of a healthy diet you'd need to eat to get 2g protein per kg.
It's fine if you just want the bare necessity, but if your into sports for instance boosting protein is a good thing. Not everyone is average or leads an average lifestyle.
You even contradict yourself by taking cod liver oil.
Why aren't you just eating more oily fish?
It's the same for protein supplements rather than eating extra chicken or similar we take a shake.
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Caporegime
I have arguments almost on a weekly basis as my missus is hooked with supplements. Over the past year we have a full cupboard of them.
She gives me cod liver oil and magnesium every evening with my post dinner cup of tea. I take it just to keep the peace although not sure if I am helping with that. Not that I notice the difference.
She gives me cod liver oil and magnesium every evening with my post dinner cup of tea. I take it just to keep the peace although not sure if I am helping with that. Not that I notice the difference.
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Man of Honour
Nope. Plenty of peer reviewed journals out there for an array of dietary supplements.
That said I don't need many supplements other than the ones I've shared as my diet is pretty good. Most people don't get enough protein but that's understandable as nutritional knowledge is poor in this country.
Just because you think it's a sham doesn't make it one.
I do agree with you there is a lot of misinformation and bended truths out there. I.e. celebs pushing a supplement just for marketing and sales. (A lot of them have full time trainers, train multiple times a day and have everything cooked for them, and take more "dodgy" supplements). They sell a lie/dream via supplements.
However as has been stated there are decades of research done on things like creatine, protein, vitamin D supplements and many others. To dismiss them as marketing rubbish is quite ignorant.
You do bring up an important issue about people doing their research and understanding nutrition though. That is very important.
Vitamin D3
Helps regulate the amount of calcium and phosphate in the body. It's good for bones, teeth and muscles. The NHS recommends that even healthy people should consider taking a daily supplement, especially as we head into the winter months.
EPA / Omega-3 from fish oil
Good for your heart, brain, eyes, and joints. I like fish, especially oily fish, but I hate the smell and cleanup after cooking fish, so I inevitably don't eat enough to get the required amount.
L-Theanine and Ashwagandha KSM-66
I use these two in combination for better sleep and to reduce stress.
I find L-Theanine helps reduce caffeine jitters and some research has shown that Ashwagandha can improve athletic performance, including increasing VO2 Max.
Creatine
As-per my previous post.
General multi-vitamin
Just as a top-up for anything I might be missing out on through my normal diet. Although I try to eat a healthy diet, I'm probably (literally) ****ing away 99% of this one.
As to why I don't take other supplements — I've looked into quite a few others such as Magnesium Threonate and Glycenate and Beta-Alanine but I've discounted them either because of the cost (in the case of a good Magnesium supplement) or because I doubt I will benefit from the marginal gains in taking it (in the case of Beta-Alanine).
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Don
Talking about side effects, I used to use the marg with statins in it. ****ed me up, was getting joint pains like I had the flu all the time, seems it’s a common side effect of statins. Also reading the small print you were meant eat 1/2kg of the stuff a month!
Caporegime
My grandad lived through two world wars. Lived till 93. Was driving till he was 88. Was strong as an ox. Ate what he needed when he needed it. Had the odd beer etc.
Genetics is far more critical than what supplements and diet you take. Obviously loading up on sugar is not good but eating normally and getting rid of processed food is far more beneficial than any supplements will give you.
Not quite the same. Fuel has pretty much a standard formula which everyone uses, if it doesn't meet the standards it just won't work. You can easily test it as the results are short term, it goes bang properly or it doesn't. The body and food needs to be tested over whole lifetimes to see what happens.
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Personally, I go for pure unflavoured Creatine Monohydrate powder. There's a brand called Bulk that sells on Amazon and it's usually pretty cheap, but if that's not available, Myprotein or similar brands are pretty reliable and a similar price.
MyProtein, unflavoured.
Vitamin D and Cod liver oil - Vitamin d was recommended by the GP in winter months and as much as i like fish, my mrs doesnt, so its rare that i eat it.
I tried Lions mane about 5 months ago, and started with some ill health and had a couple of stints in hospital.
Current tests are showing some form of autoimmune disorder and while it may not be entirely down to the LM, research has showed that it can highlight autoimmune like symptoms.
Originally they were thinking MS/Lupus or maybe even Fibro, but now systems have eased massively, they're thinking it could be 'Reactive arthritis' potentially caused by the LM as it can put the immune system into overdrive and they believe because of this, the immune system started to attack itself.
Safe to say, i havent taken it since.
I tried Lions mane about 5 months ago, and started with some ill health and had a couple of stints in hospital.
Current tests are showing some form of autoimmune disorder and while it may not be entirely down to the LM, research has showed that it can highlight autoimmune like symptoms.
Originally they were thinking MS/Lupus or maybe even Fibro, but now systems have eased massively, they're thinking it could be 'Reactive arthritis' potentially caused by the LM as it can put the immune system into overdrive and they believe because of this, the immune system started to attack itself.
Safe to say, i havent taken it since.
I take:
Creatine monohydrate daily which has helped a fair bit with recovery between sets (the cheapest I can find at the time - though usually from bodybuilding warehouse).
Soluble electrolytes when I'm at the gym; I sweat a lot when exercising and drinking pure water does nothing to quench my first and makes me want to pee instead.
Whey protein as I'm currently eating at a caloric deficit, I aim for at least 1.6 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight a day.
Caffeine? I guess you could consider this a supplement, black coffee and/or zero calorie energy drinks in the morning and midday help suppress my appetite and improve performance at the gym. I've been trying to cut back on rest days to increase my sensitivity.
Creatine monohydrate daily which has helped a fair bit with recovery between sets (the cheapest I can find at the time - though usually from bodybuilding warehouse).
Soluble electrolytes when I'm at the gym; I sweat a lot when exercising and drinking pure water does nothing to quench my first and makes me want to pee instead.
Whey protein as I'm currently eating at a caloric deficit, I aim for at least 1.6 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight a day.
Caffeine? I guess you could consider this a supplement, black coffee and/or zero calorie energy drinks in the morning and midday help suppress my appetite and improve performance at the gym. I've been trying to cut back on rest days to increase my sensitivity.
Why unflavoured?
I used to be low on Vitamin D, so take that and have continued ever since. It gets checked very occasionally.
I also started with Omega, because I eat fish less than once per month.
I do think a lot of people wind up with supplements because they think they ought to, and have absolutely no idea what if anything it's actually doing.
I'm reasonably confident that a large proportion of the population would benefit from Vitamin D, Omega and Iron (for women), but outside of those three I feel like it has to be more niche.
I also started with Omega, because I eat fish less than once per month.
I do think a lot of people wind up with supplements because they think they ought to, and have absolutely no idea what if anything it's actually doing.
I'm reasonably confident that a large proportion of the population would benefit from Vitamin D, Omega and Iron (for women), but outside of those three I feel like it has to be more niche.
5g serving equals 5g creatine.
Flavoured is like 3g and 2g flavouring. It's just cheaper really easy enough to add some cordial if you like.
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