Do you take any supplements?

Once a day I take a Multivitamin, A Glucosamine/Chondroitin tablet, An Omega 3/6/9 capsule and one with Calcium and Magnesium.

I don't eat much oily fish and don't drink milk at all apart from a a miniscule amount in a cup of tea.

Been taking these since I was 37. 52 now and still playing sport as actively as I was back then.

Not sure why I started taking supplements. But I am afraid to stop now. Haven't noticed any side effects. However, in my regular health checks I haven't asked specifically for blood tests to monitor what my various levels are like. Which is something I should do.

robj20 said:
5g serving equals 5g creatine.
Flavoured is like 3g and 2g flavouring. It's just cheaper really easy enough to add some cordial if you like.
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Creatine is something I haven't looked into. Not sure why. Is it really that beneficial to someone even if they aren't concentrating on building muscle mass?
 
Just started in gym 5 weeks ago and take creatine. Was taking Ashwaganda but have stopped for now. Am trying to get all my protein through my diet, but it's hard to get to 160g a day. Chicken, tofu, hummus, lentils, eggs, tinned fish, yogurt, kefir and seeds being the main sources for me and nut butters and cheese!
 
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I use a vitamin D spray from October through to the end of April. I take 1g of fish oil 250mg each of EPA and DHA, which carries a risk of getting afib, but it reduces chance of stroke and has a myriad of other health benefits.
 
adam cool dude said:
My grandad lived through two world wars. Lived till 93. Was driving till he was 88. Was strong as an ox. Ate what he needed when he needed it. Had the odd beer etc.

Genetics is far more critical than what supplements and diet you take. Obviously loading up on sugar is not good but eating normally and getting rid of processed food is far more beneficial than any supplements will give you.
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Oh of course genetics are always going to conquer above all else, but what if you helped your genetics really come to life by good nutrition?
 
Nasher said:
Not quite the same. Fuel has pretty much a standard formula which everyone uses, if it doesn't meet the standards it just won't work. You can easily test it as the results are short term, it goes bang properly or it doesn't. The body and food needs to be tested over whole lifetimes to see what happens.
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Well it was the best analogy I could think whilst pondering life on the loo. The point is that in it's raw form crude oil doesn't really help and the refining process has got better over time, just as our knowledge on nutrition and the huge shift in population size, crop quality and meat quality.
 
robj20 said:
Do you have any idea how much of a healthy diet you'd need to eat to get 2g protein per kg.
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There is nothing unhealthy about eating less than 2g/kg protein per day, regardless of how much you exercise. The extra protein is beneficial, that doesn't mean its absence is unhealthy.

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It's fine if you just want the bare necessity, but if your into sports for instance boosting protein is a good thing.
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Yes, I agree it's a good thing. That doesn't mean being into sports and not boosting protein is unhealthy in any way.

robj20 said:
You even contradict yourself by taking cod liver oil.
Why aren't you just eating more oily fish?
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As I explained, the cod liver oil helps joints recover faster after strenuous exercise in my experience, I find that beneficial. That doesn't mean it would be unhealthy to not take it. I dislike the taste of oily fish, and lots of oily fish species have a high mercury content due to bioaccumulation, cod liver oil avoids that.

I'll say it one more time for the cheap seats, supplements may have beneficial effects but at the same time taking supplements is not necessary to be healthy if you have a good diet regardless of how sedentary or active your lifestyle is. Those two concepts are not mutually exclusive even though you seem to imply that they are.

Sounds to me like you are arguing for the sake of being argumentative and not actually reading people's posts thoroughly. Maybe there's a supplement out there to help you relax? Just a suggestion.
 
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melmac said:
Once a day I take a Multivitamin, A Glucosamine/Chondroitin tablet, An Omega 3/6/9 capsule and one with Calcium and Magnesium.

I don't eat much oily fish and don't drink milk at all apart from a a miniscule amount in a cup of tea.

Been taking these since I was 37. 52 now and still playing sport as actively as I was back then.

Not sure why I started taking supplements. But I am afraid to stop now. Haven't noticed any side effects. However, in my regular health checks I haven't asked specifically for blood tests to monitor what my various levels are like. Which is something I should do.



Creatine is something I haven't looked into. Not sure why. Is it really that beneficial to someone even if they aren't concentrating on building muscle mass?
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I find I can push higher power for those high intensity little climbs on my bike and it just feels easier.
 
Ormy1 said:
There is nothing unhealthy about eating less than 2g/kg protein per day, regardless of how much you exercise. The extra protein is beneficial, that doesn't mean its absence is unhealthy.



Yes, I agree it's a good thing. That doesn't mean being into sports and not boosting protein is unhealthy in any way.



*Sigh* As I explained, the cod liver oil helps joints recover faster after strenuous exercise in my experience, I find that beneficial. That doesn't mean it would be unhealthy to not take it. I dislike the taste of oily fish, and lots of oily fish species have a high mercury content due to bioaccumulation, cod liver oil avoids that.

I'll say it one more time for the cheap seats, supplements may have beneficial effects but at the same time taking supplements is not necessary to be healthy if you have a good diet regardless of how sedentary or active your lifestyle is. Those two concepts are not mutually exclusive even though you seem to imply that they are.

Sounds to me like you are arguing for the sake of being argumentative and not actually reading people's posts thoroughly. Maybe there's a supplement out there to help you relax or improve reading comprehension? Just a suggestion.
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Then we agree.
I could be perfectly happy without supplements. But they help me perform better and recover faster all while being convenient. It means I can ride a bit faster, a bit further and more often.
There are zero downsides to me.
 
Freefaller said:
Oh of course genetics are always going to conquer above all else, but what if you helped your genetics really come to life by good nutrition?
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If you look at the places where people have the longest life expectancy they are not on supplements. It is all evolution from hundreds of years and certain diets.

I do wish there would be more focus on educating people on how bad processed food is for them however.
 
adam cool dude said:
If you look at the places where people have the longest life expectancy they are not on supplements. It is all evolution from hundreds of years and certain diets.

I do wish there would be more focus on educating people on how bad processed food is for them however.
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It's not just processed food though, even the fresh food people generally have access to in countries like ours is nothing like the stuff people were eating for most of your grandparents life or in the places with the highest life expectancy.

Unless you really put the effort in and pay for the privilege our fresh food is still mass produced, force ripened and contains a lot less nutrition than it should (in most cases).
 
Creatine
D3 + K2
Fish oil

Protein/meal replacement powders, usually of a morning as eating solid foods first thing makes me feel ill.

A good diet goes a long way, but sometimes it isn't that easy unfortunately. I don't touch processed foods, I eat healthy on the daily, but there's still the odd thing I don't get enough of for whatever reason. Oily fish is one of them, and being in the UK sunlight isn't exactly forthcoming for most of the year.

Creatine as others have mentioned is a no brainer, it isn't just for people looking to build muscle. There's countless very positive studies that show its benefits spanning over decades, it's also dirt cheap.
 
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I've been taking NMN. It's one of the rare thing's I've taken where I've been pretty confident it is having an effect. Switching to another brand for a short time I noticed it wasn't having the same benefits and the quality likely wasn't the same, so somewhat of a placebo test.
 
adam cool dude said:
If you look at the places where people have the longest life expectancy they are not on supplements. It is all evolution from hundreds of years and certain diets.

I do wish there would be more focus on educating people on how bad processed food is for them however.
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Ultra Process food is absolutely awful. There's no need to eat it if you can avoid it, but avoiding it in this day and age is nigh on impossible. We just can't produce enough food. Arguably things like supplements are processed especially protein powders, but they're effectively a bi-product so instead of it going to waste why not enjoy it? And they're not as bad.

Unfortunately you can't compare long life expectancy with supplements really as it's not really a measurable or studied thing. What is evident though is diet and activity but also the quality of healthcare. Physical activity and environmental factors can't be ignored either.

Those countries do supplement but they also have higher quality standards for things like supplements. In fact the top 10 life expectancy countries have multi £bn supplements industry. Sure that doesn't mean it's correlated but to ignore the industry completely would be naïve.
 
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p1RATE said:
I've been taking NMN. It's one of the rare thing's I've taken where I've been pretty confident it is having an effect. Switching to another brand for a short time I noticed it wasn't having the same benefits and the quality likely wasn't the same, so somewhat of a placebo test.
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That's one I'm very interested in, research looks very good so far.
 
Freefaller said:
Process food is absolutely awful. There's no need to eat it if you can avoid it, but avoiding it in this day and age is nigh on impossible. We just can't produce enough food. Arguably things like supplements are processed especially protein powders, but they're effectively a bi-product so instead of it going to waste why not enjoy it?

Unfortunately you can't compare long life expectancy with supplements really as it's not really a measurable or studied thing. What is evident though is diet and activity but also the quality of healthcare. Physical activity and environmental factors can't be ignored either.

Those countries do supplement but they also have higher quality standards for things like supplements. In fact the top 10 life expectancy countries have multi £bn supplements industry. Sure that doesn't mean it's correlated but to ignore the industry completely would be naïve.
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Surely you mean ultra processed, I imagine it's a very specialist diet to avoid processed.
 
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