Well if it is millions, as you say, then that is even more likely that there is a few out there that cannot be tweaked.
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Well if it is millions, as you say, then that is even more likely that there is a few out there that cannot be tweaked.
I was just looking to read up about WattMan, which if I'm not mistaken is the built in tweaking software in the drivers, when I noticed in the endnotes.
Quite shocked that such tweaking as we have talking about invalidates the warranty, even though it is done with the software provided in the driver.
Edit: opps I forgot to link to the WattMan page. LINK
Quite shocked that such tweaking as we have talking about invalidates the warranty, even though it is done with the software provided in the driver.
Edit: opps I forgot to link to the WattMan page. LINK
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I was just looking to read up about WattMan, which if I'm not mistaken is the built in tweaking software in the drivers, when I noticed in the endnotes.
Quite shocked that such tweaking as we have talking about invalidates the warranty, even though it is done with the software provided in the driver.
Lol. Something else? When you use MSI AB has the same notification....
Aorus & Sapphire supplied overclocking software also.
3rd party AIB's I can 'almost' understand, but WattMan is bundled into the drivers which you have to install. I assume you can, just not install that component.
I can see why NVidia don't include tweaking software in their driver package, well until they bring it up to date it, seeing as it hasn't changed much in ages and is positively archaic compared to the Radeon driver suite., as they might very well include it then.
Didn't nVidia CP have overclocking options once upon a time back in the GF 7300GT times?
Look, this philosophy of keeping the CP with the same interface as Windows' most basic parts like Device Manager, for example, isn't something that I would embrace?
Maybe they are scared to introduce any changes to the layout, they would mess it all over and it would start to freeze, stop responding, crashes, blue screens, etc?
I was just looking to read up about WattMan, which if I'm not mistaken is the built in tweaking software in the drivers, when I noticed in the endnotes.
Quite shocked that such tweaking as we have talking about invalidates the warranty, even though it is done with the software provided in the driver.
Edit: opps I forgot to link to the WattMan page. LINK
It's a standard disclaimer that if you overclock/overvolt and break your card because you don't know what you're doing, it's down to you and no one else. Don't forget that Wattman appeared because customers demanded that functionality built into the drivers and not have to rely on third party programs hacking into the drivers. You can't have it both ways.
Wasn't aware that it was added due to customer pressure, that's good to know and yes it's s pretty standard disclaimer, I agree.
The problem isn't really being competitive with Nvidia, they will manage that no problem just like they have in the past when even further behind. The BIG problem is that even when they are competitive and offering much better bang for buck most people will still buy Nvidia over AMD to a huge degree due to brand power. We last saw this when the HD7900 cards were beating the GTX670/680/770 and noticeably cheaper, the GTX cards were still outselling the HD cards by a large amount.
Just a note, that's roughly the TDP for a Vega 64 liquid set to turbo (OC) mode in drivers, it's probably listed as a worst case scenario. Out of the box TDP for the regular V64 without any tweaking is 220w.
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The problem isn't really being competitive with Nvidia, they will manage that no problem just like they have in the past when even further behind. The BIG problem is that even when they are competitive and offering much better bang for buck most people will still buy Nvidia over AMD to a huge degree due to brand power. We last saw this when the HD7900 cards were beating the GTX670/680/770 and noticeably cheaper, the GTX cards were still outselling the HD cards by a large amount.
Just a note, that's roughly the TDP for a Vega 64 liquid set to turbo (OC) mode in drivers, it's probably listed as a worst case scenario. Out of the box TDP for the regular V64 without any tweaking is 220w.
220 Watts, in reality is about what my GPU runs at, without overclocking.
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I was playing FC5 last night with the V64 Nitro and had the overlay on. It was using between 250W and 270W on the factory overclock (1630).
On the contrary the GTX1080Ti with the factory boost to 2000, was burning 320W last week.
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AMD's problem is the Radeon brand. It stinks. They should've rebranded years ago as the Radeon name still has a lot of stigma.
In fact, the perfect time to do this would be when they have a top class, top tier card to launch. But, god knows when that'll be..
Anyway, i want AMD/Intel/Nvidia all competing. It's good for the customer.
In fact, the perfect time to do this would be when they have a top class, top tier card to launch. But, god knows when that'll be..
Anyway, i want AMD/Intel/Nvidia all competing. It's good for the customer.
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No, nvidia are miles ahead.
If the person has crappy case and crappy system, that's not the fault of the card.
You say there isn't a single case out there in the world, where that isn't possible, out of the several hundred thousands of cards sold world wide That is certainly what you seem to be saying.
What a bizarre statement. Neither Nvidia or AMD can guarantee that all their cards actually work. How many arrive DOA? how many have to be returned?
There are always going to be a few failures. Just like said I above, when you sell millions of cards there are going to be a few duds. It's a far cry from what you were trying to claim, that Panos's card was an exception and most cards weren't capable of that. In fact it's very easy to tweak Vega to use less power while giving more performance without overclocking.
Quite shocked that such tweaking as we have talking about invalidates the warranty, even though it is done with the software provided in the driver.
Edit: opps I forgot to link to the WattMan page. LINK
How is this news to you? Overclocking a GPU or CPU has always voided the warranty.
It is strong to say Radeon stinks but it is true that GeForce sounds more natural and consumer-recognisable and consumer-friendly.
They must work on this idea - to ask their customers what new brand they would select for the graphics products.
For example, they already market Vega as Vega, not as Radeon Vega...
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really they dont market as radeon rx vega ? off amd's own website. only lazy reviewers who cannot be bothered to write radeon out and same with a very small handful of online shops.
If i remember there advertising videos from the frontier and 64/56 were all Radeon Vega too.
If i remember there advertising videos from the frontier and 64/56 were all Radeon Vega too.
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They should both drop the 1990's naming scheme.
They should both drop the 1990's naming scheme.
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Vega does sound much better, and just RX ### for mainstream.
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No... i changed my mind, keep it simple, just Vega and whatever the CU count it, this for all gaming GPU's.
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How about iVega for 'cool and modern' and to mark their ongoing partnership with Apple?Vega actually sounds cool and modern. Close to vegan.
AMD can do VEGA UHD 100 series, for instance