Doctor Who

Glaucus said:
It needs to become darker. Writing needs to get better, yes he's a time traveler, but stop filling in massive plot holes with junk writing. Just don't make those holes in the first place.

I understand torchwood was meant to be for the older people, but missed that, didn't get into the new dr who until about halfway through.
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It can't get darker, it's first and foremost a family show.

You should check out Torchwood, I loved it all.
 
I enjoyed it certainly the best episode since Tennant left, I didn't like that it retconned the Doctors back story it always added a bit of gravity to his actions.

See this is were you see hope and despair when Peter Capaldi takes over, first off lets not use the word darker but instead use deeper story telling, with Moffat usually ending things with rainbows and unicorns will he ever be able to tell deeper story's and get the full use out of Capaldi?
 
This would actually be a good opportunity to continue two threads of the show; Peter Capaldi in the regular family show Doctor Who and in parallel a series of stories with Hurt as the War Doctor in a much darker vein tell.ing the stories of the Time War before the Day of The Doctor happened.
 
Glaucus said:
It needs to become darker. Writing needs to get better, yes he's a time traveler, but stop filling in massive plot holes with junk writing. Just don't make those holes in the first place.

I understand torchwood was meant to be for the older people, but missed that, didn't get into the new dr who until about halfway through.
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Yeah I never saw Torchwood but it did look a bit better, my main gripe with the current stuff is it's basically a program for kids :(

AlecR said:
The stories won't, until Moffat gets the sack (although, saying that, the 50th anniversary episode was EXCEPTIONAL).
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I did enjoy it last night I must say, but like you say not too much hope on that front :(

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
But if you don't watch it now how do you know what its like? :D
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I watched Eccleson's run which I loved, I liked Tennant and watched until it started going downhill... When Matt Smith took over I thought I'd try watching again but I hated it, far too silly really.
 
Tibbz2 said:
Yeah I never saw Torchwood but it did look a bit better, my main gripe with the current stuff is it's basically a program for kids :(
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Thats not my main problem, its bad writing.
This episode was a perfect example of lets change stuff as we can, why? No real point. Oh look they cant remeber because we such at writing and so need to cover up the errors.
Why did it need changing? Why not just shown that incredabley important part of his history for the 50th. I kean its an extremly interesting time. It didnt need a crap story to changeit.
 
Diagro said:
Did you ignore the end?

Hurt and tennents doctors would have no memory of the events thus thinking they blew up the planet. Thus staying who they were.

The Time Lords become evil inside the time bubble imo.
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However in the End of Time it is mentioned that "At the heart of the Time War, billions are dying, being resurrected and dying repeatedly. The never-ending carnage is a travesty of life." Yet this would not have been possible once inside the time bubble.
 
Glaucus said:
Thats not my main problem, its bad writing.
This episode was a perfect example of lets change stuff as we can, why? No real point. Oh look they cant remeber because we such at writing and so need to cover up the errors.
Why did it need changing? Why not just shown that incredabley important part of his history for the 50th. I kean its an extremly interesting time. It didnt need a crap story to changeit.
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That is a lot of typos for someone complaining about bad writing ;)

I really don't like that they undid it though. Not comfortable with him not being the last of the time lords any more.
 
Woden said:
The Daleks were destroyed. Killed each other with the crossfire when the planet "vanished". Though IMHO this is a very easy way to bring daleks back next season, obviously some ships survived.
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That was also crap. Destroyed each other lol. There was exactly paired of ships, releasing enough firepower in reflex time to destroy each ship and everything onboard.
 
Just watched 'Adventures in space and time' the dramatisation of the Dr who genesis at the beeb . Brian Cox and David Bradley both excellent. The actors playing Verity and Waris had really interesting stories. Only slight fly in the ointment was putting Matt Smith in at the very end with Bradley. Kind of undermined the 'realism' factor...
 
cm1179 said:
i'm not a dr who fan but i do remember watching an episode in the late 80's and one scene sticks in my mind. from memory, he was on an alien spaceship and one of the aliens was carrying him and was going to throw him out of the ship and dr who was trying to convince him not to whilst he was being carried.

anyone know what the episode was called?
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You're confusing this scene in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

http://youtu.be/Rs3pKS0pvZE?t=8m13s
 
Glaucus said:
That was also crap. Destroyed each other lol. There was exactly paired of ships, releasing enough firepower in reflex time to destroy each ship and everything onboard.
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Wouldn't there be loads of them on the planet still as well locked in the time bubble ?

Or did the doctors get to choose what remained on the planet for the sake of convenience and poor writing
 
AlecR said:
Can somebody explain: originally, the regeneration limit was 13 right? Did this change when the universe was reset?
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Was thinking about this, Tom Baker at the end - I assume he is some future regeneration as he said something along the line of revisiting some old favourite faces. Given we know the first 13 Doctors now, Tom Baker is some post 13th Doctor regeneration. The Doctor didn't seem surprised that there was a future version of himself post the 13th version so maybe they'll just ignore the whole regeneration limit.
 
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