Poll: Does David Moyes need to go? **Spoilers**

MoyesIN or MoyesOUT?

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Castiel said:
Is Fulham make or break for Moyes?
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I doubt it. If we lose to Fulham, it won't change anything.
Moyes is here till the Summer at least.
On other forums, most believe that he is guaranteed at least 1 more year (ie. till xmas 2014).

Castiel said:
Are we ever going to see Kagawa preferred over the twin donkey's Young/Welbeck?
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I still dont get why fans rate Kagawa so much.
I asked this previously and people stated that he was good at Dortmund.
Well, this is the EPL. Different style of play.

Under Fergie, Kagawa was hardly played, probably because he didnt meet the standard. And now that Moyes has arrived, the pattern is continuing. When successive managers are freezing out certain players, usually there is something in that. I personally believe that Kagawa needs to move on. His career is going absolutely nowhere at Man Utd and he is spending his best years, sitting on the bench.

This made me laugh:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...anchester-united-game-because-he-ate-too-much

Shinji Kagawa Missed Manchester United Game Because He Ate Too Much
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When Kagawa is on the pitch he shows significantly better quality than either Young or Welbeck. And 6 goals in 24 league starts is not to be sneezed at for a player often played out of position (most of which were under Fergie in his debut season, which belies the claim Fergie hardly played him). Given match time and positional advantage he could be a great player for United, unfortunately Rooney plays in a similar position, but when he was out, Moyes decided to go with Young or Welbeck instead.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-down-his-2012-13-stats-for-manchester-united
 
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Yeah but Kagawa is like flipping a coin, you don't know which player your going to get, and he's not energetic or strong enough to play in the middle.
 
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David moyes is the only prem manager I wouldn't let in my house. Allerdyce,, pardew, heck even pulis if we're going there but moyes? No way pal. On your ****in bike.
 
Really Howard's tune was different in November....

"I got a great chance going to Manchester United under Sir Alex but my career was moulded and shaped by David. When I look back at my career, he will have had the biggest influence. Not everyone takes to his style but for me, I've always been the type of player who wants it on the chin. If it's good, then I want a pat on the back but if it's bad, then give me a talking to and Moyes was like a father figure. He trusted me a lot but with that trust and responsibility, I sometimes got the short end of the stick. The main thing is I always appreciated his honesty. It seemed like he was rollicking me every week but when he placed that much responsibility on your shoulders, then he expects a lot of you and I wouldn't be where I am now without him. What is the definition of a Manchester United manager? He's a top coach who always gets his best out of his players so if that's what it takes to be their manager, then he is definitely it. They've got a great squad. Change is difficult and following Sir Alex is never easy."
 
Has he? He says Moyes was honest with him gave him crap when he was poor, etc. That doesn't mention Moyes's mentality.... now 5-6 months into working under Martinez he can see the effect of a positive mentality has. He says not everyone likes his style, he didn't mind it, but has since said effectively that Martinez's style is better.

As for having a big influence, he's spent longer at Everton than anywhere else, his game improved there.

He didn't previously call Moyes crap, he merely said the positive mentality has had a good effect on the team.

Don't forget right there that Howard says Utd have a great squad....... throwing the whole thing in to question :p


Seriously though, players/managers/general people in football are rarely purposefully rude about other players/managers/etc. They get asked a question about someone they played with, against, or worked under and the thing you'll get told is usually positive.
 
Not to mention the possibility / probability that what Howard may or may not have said about Moyes being completely absent from the report (making it sound more negative about his previous manager than it was probably stated in the interview)
 
So guys can we just wrap this thread up asap? Moyes is and was the wrong choice. Don't let your pride get in the way here. We need to unite and get him out before it's too late. Laudrup caretaker to the end of the year
 
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