Instead of the typical central midfielder problem, we ended up with our entire team in their half of the pitch most of the time, and had plenty of our best creative/attacking players on.
It was a shambles whatever way you look at it I'm afraid.
Poll: Does David Moyes need to go? **Spoilers**
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Instead of the typical central midfielder problem, we ended up with our entire team in their half of the pitch most of the time, and had plenty of our best creative/attacking players on.
It was a shambles whatever way you look at it I'm afraid.
The problem was when he moved Rooney into midfield instead of going to a diamond with Mata taking up position behind Rooney and Van Persie (or Mata and Rooney behind Van Persie to mix it up) with Carrick taking up the Holding position in front of the back four. Poor tactical play in my opinion, given the amount of overall possession and particularly last third possession.
At one point we were playing totally lopsided from the left. Any team other than Fulham would have destroyed us down the right. With the speed and possession of our wide players, along with Mata and Rooney playing through the centre to Van Persie we could have split Fulhams defensive four while isolating their midfield holding players.
Record numbers of passes, possession and so on mean nothing if your tactical positioning cannot draw out the opposition and break up their defensive line.
Moyes has to go, or he needs to do what Fergie did and hire a back room who can complement and expand on the tactical and training regimes rather than trying to be all things to all men.
didnt mean to suggest its just the new fans - sorry if thats what came across - but a lot of the "noise" is from those fans
Okay well the situations aren't even remotely the same
I'm personally not even bothered about winning anything. At the moment I'm more concerned by what happens if we let Moyes spend £150m and then it turns out he's not up to the job? That sets us back even longer, unless we're lucky and get a replacement who is able to utilise the players he bought and sort the club out.
I get it's all new for him and I don't think he's a bad manager (still), but we're potentially saying he's bigger than the club. Something that is a great concern. Our future is in his hands and so far there are very few positives and it looks pretty bleak.
As for the squad, yes it's not brilliant and some of the players are getting older, but if you mix world class players with decent players, you can still have a very good team. One that can get 4th. If you have a few world class players and bypass all that is good about them (by crossing and nothing else), you end up in a situation like this.
I get it's all new for him and I don't think he's a bad manager (still), but we're potentially saying he's bigger than the club. Something that is a great concern. Our future is in his hands and so far there are very few positives and it looks pretty bleak.
As for the squad, yes it's not brilliant and some of the players are getting older, but if you mix world class players with decent players, you can still have a very good team. One that can get 4th. If you have a few world class players and bypass all that is good about them (by crossing and nothing else), you end up in a situation like this.
I wouldn't say I'm a new supporter, I've supported Utd since as long as I can remember. Annoyingly, this is the first season I've followed closely, previously watched matches when I saw them on TV but rarely went out of my way to watch matches.
What's wrong with 'new' fans voicing their opinions anyway? Hardly an inviting way to keep people posting here, almost comes across as elitist.
None of the fans I know were expecting to win anything this season, however, the manner in which we're playing is pretty poor. It's clearly not all Moyes' fault that we are where we are and for that reason I doubt he'll go anywhere any time soon.
What's wrong with 'new' fans voicing their opinions anyway? Hardly an inviting way to keep people posting here, almost comes across as elitist.
None of the fans I know were expecting to win anything this season, however, the manner in which we're playing is pretty poor. It's clearly not all Moyes' fault that we are where we are and for that reason I doubt he'll go anywhere any time soon.
I believe United need a reliable world class manager. Carlo Ancelotti would have been my choice with a proven past record and a winning mentality. Wouldn't be surprised if he left Madrid in the summer either if they don't win anything.
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Really? Be careful that other teams don't realise this tactic and start appointing such managers... Well done
Yea, he'd of been of one of my choices as well. But, regarding Moyes, how do expect people to become world class managers if they arent given the chance to prove it..
Ignoring whether Chelsea would sell him, I doubt many would have thought Moyes would be able to attract the level of player that Mata is to Utd before the end of Jan, so given a summer of widely considered "rebuilding" I dont see it being that much of a problem attracting either top quality or at the very least highly promising young players before/just after the WC
Nothing is wrong per se - its just a gigantic coincidence that so many new "supporters" all of a sudden start posting in these threads when the team is down on its luck etc/ playing badly
Nothing is wrong per se - its just a gigantic coincidence that so many new "supporters" all of a sudden start posting in these threads when the team is down on its luck etc/ playing badly
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He may well be available in the summer, if Real do approach the Saints manager
Hmm, Mata was not playing at Chelsea so I don't think we can draw such conclusions from his signing. It remains to be seen if Moyes can attract world class players to United when their choices and position in their current club are better.
Most other teams can't appoint managers of Ancelotti's calibre but no doubt united would have had a good chance and still do.
Hope this helps.
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Hey when Fellini comes back maybe this crossing play wont be a bad thing.
Its his cunning plan.
Its his cunning plan.
He could have also gone back to Spain with one of the top clubs in the league this season ( Im sure I read AM were after him as well)
There are world class players in leading clubs in worse leagues, or certainly less competitve leagues
If/ When Rooney re-signs, Mata on a new contract, and De Gea signing again thats three very highly thought of players. There are plenty of players out there who arent at big clubs yet who want a chance
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