Does something need to be done about dogs?

3 dogs that are aggressive which the owner is physically unable to control, license controls need to a lot more through and should include proof someone is cable of handling and controlling certain dog breeds especially ones that were historically bred for protection.

Seen a similar incident not that long ago but owners were incapable of getting control of the dogs - it was actually one of the dogs which sussed it out and made the other two back off - always found it weird when an animal shows that level of awareness/intelligence - one of our neighbour's cats for instance has several times acted to prevent other cats being run over in the road - even to the point of putting itself at risk.
 
More Darwinism in action.

Up to four dogs in yet another killing.


The dogs, which are not thought to be a banned breed, are thought to have all come from the property where the man was discovered.
 
If people in government had any gumption they'd order a cull and stop worrying about how it looks.

If they had any gumption, the whole country would be in a different place tbh..

For me, it's just the end result of no enforcement of any kind, no deterrence, no proper punishment for flouting what little rules already existed, so the problem has grown and grown and grown - and here we are.

We need proper rules, licensing, real enforcement with real consequences.

I don't blame the dogs in any of this, this situation has been allowed to happen, so it's now happening.
 
If people in government had any gumption they'd order a cull and stop worrying about how it looks.

It's worse than the bloody car fetishists who get away with murder constantly.
Yep, there are plenty of people who need culling to establish a stronger, more moral, more intelligent and in short a 'better human'.
There's plenty of dead wood around.... :D :D
 
license controls need to a lot more through and should include proof someone is cable of handling and controlling certain dog breeds especially ones that were historically bred for protection.
If only there were training courses available.....

Surely these dogs represent a threat worthy of carrying a knife for self defence over?
Kind of ruins their whole anti-knife drive.
You've seen the sort of bell-ends who own dogs purely for how they look... and now you want them legally allowed to carry knives "For self-defence, honest guv, innit..."??!!

The problem with a lot of dog owners is they treat their pets like children and therefore think they're the most precious thing that can't possibly do anything wrong.
The problem is the same as with parents who view their children like that... and the results are similar, funnily enough.
 
We had German Shephard for 13 years and currently have 6months old Golden Retriver.

Biggest problem nowadays is wrong people owning wrong type of dog and take zero responsibility for dogs action or have any care in the world. Cross breading is huge problem is well. One has to ask your self why would you buy your self a dog that is aggressive in nature.
 
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As someone who has owned dogs (still own 1 now) and been on many 7 or 8 mile walks through empty countryside where having my dog not on a lead gave us much enjoyment & freedom, I'd still support a lead at all times when in public law.

That's absolutely sadistic to safe breeds of dogs that need healthy exercise. Walking a dog on a lead does not give most dogs the exercise they need. And in case you haven't figured out, the countryside is also in public.

An owner should know if it's dog is a threat to the public or not and take measures to make sure that is controlled. So some dogs would need a lead/muzzle to protect the public. The ones that don't, ie most Spaniels, simply don't need a lead
 
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We had German Shephard for 13 years and currently have 6months old Golden Retriver.

Biggest problem nowadays is wrong people owning wrong type of dog and take zero responsibility for dogs action or have any care in the world. Cross breading is huge problem is well. One has to ask your self why would you buy your self a dog that is aggressive in nature.

I don't see any problems with cockerpoos, springdoodles or labradoodles. It's more when some thug types tries to mix pitbulls with other fighting/attack breeds.
 
That's absolutely sadistic to safe breeds of dogs that need healthy exercise. Walking a dog on a lead does not give most dogs the exercise they need. And in case you haven't figured out, the countryside is also in public.

An owner should know if it's dog is a threat to the public or not and take measures to make sure that is controlled. So some dogs would need a lead/muzzle to protect the public. The ones that don't, ie most Spaniels, simply don't need a lead
Never been labelled sadistic before, thanks! If you want to stretch your dogs legs, go on some private land where permission has been given. Or jog or cycle with it on a lead, might help u lose your fat head :D Fact is dog attacks on humans and other dogs would drastically go down. Worthy compromise imo.
 
Never been labelled sadistic before, thanks! If you want to stretch your dogs legs, go on some private land where permission has been given. Or jog or cycle with it on a lead, might help u lose your fat head :D Fact is dog attacks on humans and other dogs would drastically go down. Worthy compromise imo.

You're literally ignoring the fact that you said that you don't walk your dog on the lead in public yourself. You stated as much. That is the definition of hypocritical when asking for others to walk their dog on the lead when you yourself do not do this.

It's really animal loving that you think, only dog owners with massive amounts of private lands should be able to properly exercise their dogs.
 
You're literally ignoring the fact that you said that you don't walk your dog on the lead in public yourself. You stated as much. That is the definition of hypocritical when asking for others to walk their dog on the lead when you yourself do not do this.

It's really animal loving that you think, only dog owners with massive amounts of private lands should be able to properly exercise their dogs.
Actually I do now walk my dog always on a lead because I no longer walk her in big open spaces after other dogs that were uncontrolled and off their leads were trying to attack my dog, I now think dogs must be on a lead.

Even if I had still been walking my dog off her lead, I'd still support a law saying dogs must be leashed because I realise and appreciate my dog and my own preferences/enjoyment are secondary to that of the safety of other people and their animals.

And of course you don't have to own private land to go on private land, you can get something called permission, there's a dog rescue centre not far from where I am that lets people exercise their dogs on a huge private field they have however much they want for a donation. They'd be others who'd offer this too if the demand was created for it.
 
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i see those xl bullies are banned now thankfully
how easy is it to get the certificates of exemption though?
and what if you owned one before the ban?
would be easier to just just ban them completely, no exemptions
 
Looks like 2 of them were XL Bullies.

Who could have predicted that eh? Tttttask....
"Police said two dogs had been seized but they were hunting two more American bulldog types, which are not thought to be a banned breed"
So not XL Bullies....

"West Midlands Police released this image of one of the dogs they are looking for"
Also doesn't look like an XL Bully, remembering that the legally enshrined definition hinges entirely on approximate appearance...

They may be American Bulldogs which are strangely not deemed to be a banned breed, despite being bred from American Pit Bulls (from which it is illegal to breed, in the UK), and despite the XL Bully being a mere sub-variant of them.
Either way, it doesn't fit as neatly into your box as you would like.
 
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