Does something need to be done about dogs?

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Our views differ clearly, you are not up for education, only to challenge with your own view.

Again. You haven't got your facts straight. You are spouting falsehoods. That's nothing to do with me. It's on you.

 

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Here we go with another straw man, I don't think that. What is the point in throwing in straw man arguments when you could just read what I've actually written and refer to that:

Even when he reads what's written he still spouts rubbish.

 

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I hope the little girl survives and mends well. As for the dogs and their ilk, the complete polar opposite.

What we see and hear on the news is just the tip of a really big iceberg.

A Freedom of Information request to NHS England today revealed that hospitals in England are treating three children under the age of 16 every day for serious injuries caused by dog attacks. The figures revealed that in the last eight month period there were:

- 255 procedures carried out on the 0-5 age group
- 246 on children aged 5-9
- 186 procedures on 10-14 year olds.

Source.

So yes, something really has to be done about dogs and soon. I just hope it's done before your child or one you know is killed or seriously injured.

I posted numbers earlier in the thread and it was amazing that those doubting the figures ran away with no response.

A common trait on these forums.

 

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Who in their right mind has said it’s never the owners fault?! Point me to this lunatic so I can partake of merriment!

Literally nobody. He just can't read and makes things up.

 

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Without the number of that breed owned that data is useless. If 9 labs deaths and only 9 labs are owned in the US then they would be the most dangerous, statistically

Most Popular Dog Breeds of 2022 - American Kennel Club

The AKC uses registration data to collect the most popular breeds of the past year, and for the first time in history, the French Bulldog takes the #1 spot

www.akc.org

10 seconds on google

 

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Didn't know we were talking about America.

Chart is literally labelled "America's most dangerous dog breeds".

You are brilliant.

 

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We are discussing UK statistics and banning them from the UK, no one gives a hoot about America stats in the context of this conversation, outside of yourself who are using every fact and figure you can find online globally to justify your position about the UK.

Erm...ttask was the one recently quoting American stats.
Nice attempt to cover up your reading failure though.

 

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It's like you think I read and follow everything in here, dont know what's funnier.

Then if you don't read it maybe you should pipe down to stop yourself looking rather stupid?

 

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Well then you are quite mad, but luckily, you have zero hope of achieving your cruel machinations

How is that cruel?

 

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Wiping out a breed of dog that causes hardly any problems is cruel. What have they done to deserve the termination of their breed.

How is it cruel though? Its not harming any animals.

 

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It’s cruel on the dogs to deny them the right to life.

Ratio of fatal staffie attacks comp to the number of them in the UK is miniscule.

Are you constantly having your dog shag to produce pups? If not then by your definition you're a cruel owner.

 

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I just think wiping out a breed because of an extremely small number of incidents is totally ridiculous. It’s draconian.

Its been 5 years since a pedigree staff was involved in a fatal attack.

And the non-fatals? They're OK though, yeah?

Still waiting for you to explain how it's cruel.

 

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Where can I see these stats?

In this very thread or via google.

 

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Four-year-old girl needed 40 stitches after having face mauled in dog attack

Girl, 4, has 40 stitches after American Bulldog mauls her - before mum saves her

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES. Luna-Ann Forsyth, four, was rushed to hospital in a taxi after an American Bulldog mauled her face while at a family friend's home in Nuneaton, Warwickshire

www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Wouldn't harm a fly

 

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You know this argument is similar to the gun onwership argument in the states. There is no solution. You either find the deaths acceptable or you ban all breeds of dog over a certain weight.

Or introduce stricter controls and requirements on who can own them? Or ban certain types such as fully automatic weapons or pistols?

 

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No, it wasn't. You quoted my post and put in that reply... if you were referring to something else then why quote a post talking about fatalities and reply with that flawed argument?

I can tell you why he keeps doing stuff like that but it upsets the mods

 

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Man admits being in charge of two American bulldogs which killed elderly woman

upday.com

f7td5.app.goo.gl

Prime example of why legislation is needed. Absolute dreg of society.

 

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And another, going to be interesting when details of the breeds are released, 100% betting its a golden retriever responsible..........

Six injured in dog attacks near Birmingham primary school

The school was placed in lockdown as parents were warned the dogs could "kill a human".

www.bbc.co.uk

Wow.

 

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Compulsory registration and chipping is probably the way forward, with seizure and immediate destruction of non-chipped dogs.

The issue is, as with so many other things, is this requires enforcement and is therefore an additional burden on policing/ local authority services.

If Costa from licencing chipping and fines are correctly allocated it could easily be self-sustaining.

 

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I highly doubt any of these people have £10k to spare, the bailiffs might get an old plasma screen TV and PS5.

It doesn't cost 10k per fine for a project to be self sustaining...