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Stopping their president abusing their power and obstruction congress is not a waste of money.

Making sure America is not ruled by a King should be pretty high on Congress' list.


As a US tax payer. I do think it's a wast of money.

But I can't wait for the fact witnesses to show up.
 
Irrelevant, he didn't need it. He was a board member, not a CEO. It's very common for board members to have no relevant industry experience. He did, however, have board experience, and that's usually what companies look for when recruiting board members.

Right on cue.....

Nothing to see here folks!


Just ask yourself a few questions.

Do you think Hunter would have ended up working for Burusima but for his father's role?

What exactly did he bring to the table, for a rather large sum per month, other than his familial political connections?

Having some previous US board member involvement in companies like AMTRAK might barely make him slightly more qualified then a random of the street but doesn't anywhere near enough explain his appoitment at Burisma but for it being to corruptly have access and influence via his father.
 
As a US tax payer. I do think it's a wast of money.

But I can't wait for the fact witnesses to show up.

So you want a king as your leader?

Spending money on congressional oversight of the executive should not be seen as a waste of money.

What fact witnesses are you hoping for?

I also guess you missed all the witnesses that have already testified and that you havent been keeping up with the whole affair, as then you would know that the White House has blocked the testimony from the main players (Mulvaney, Guilliani, Pompeo etc). I guess you are also not aware of the fact that Trump was offered the opportunity to testify, and to send lawyers to the proceedings to argue his case, yet refused to do so.
 
So you want a king as your leader?

Spending money on congressional oversight of the executive should not be seen as a waste of money.

You do know that they have an election to chose the leader?

I also guess you missed all the witnesses that have already testified and that you havent been keeping up with the whole affair, as then you would know that the White House has blocked the testimony from the main players (Mulvaney, Guilliani, Pompeo etc). I guess you are also not aware of the fact that Trump was offered the opportunity to testify, and to send lawyers to the proceedings to argue his case, yet refused to do so.

Maybe before commenting , you should make yourself aware of what has been going on.


As already posted pages back.
The so called witnesses was asked if they heard or saw anything. And to speak up if they did.
No one said a word. I did watch the whole stupid pointless thing.

The Dems won't take it further as the court does not take notice of hear say. One needs facts\proof.
The dems are doing the same mistakes as they did the last election. They never learn. But I wished they did.
 
Right on cue.....

Nothing to see here folks!

Please try addressing the facts. Go on, be a devil. Treat yourself to a taste of reality.

Just ask yourself a few questions.

I'll start by reminding you that I think the appointment of Hunter Biden was a clear case of nepotism. Do I need to explain what nepotism is?

Do you think Hunter would have ended up working for Burusima but for his father's role?

I think it's entirely possible, yes.

What exactly did he bring to the table, for a rather large sum per month, other than his familial political connections?

Board experience, corporate finance experience, and legal expertise. I'm guessing you've never actually spoken to anyone who's worked on a board? Do you even know what the job involves? I have, and I do.

Having some previous US board member involvement in companies like AMTRAK might barely make him slightly more qualified then a random of the street but doesn't anywhere near enough explain his appoitment at Burisma but for it being to corruptly have access and influence via his father.

Why not? Also, where is the evidence of this alleged 'corrupt access and influence'? You must have some, right? Right?
 
You do know that they have an election to chose the leader?

They actually have two votes: the popular vote (democratic) and the electoral college vote (non-democratic). Guess which one of these votes puts the president into power?
 
Most normal people knew nothing was going to happen. The same as nothing happened to Clinton.

I would like the money spent catching the MS-13 gangs. And then putting them to death.
 
You do know that they have an election to chose the leader?

What does that have to do with making sure the elected leader does not abuse his power? America is supposed to have three coequal branches of government to keep each other in check.

If what an elected official does is the will of the people, then by definition,based on the moast recent election, Trumps impeachment is the will of the people.

In 2018 the people of the USA voted for a Democratic house and won the popular vote 53% to 45%.

If, as the Republicans have caimed, the democrats in the house have wanted to and have tried to impeach Trump since his election in 2016, then the 2018 has showed us what the American people want...

As already posted pages back.
The so called witnesses was asked if they heard or saw anything. And to speak up if they did.
No one said a word. I did watch the whole stupid pointless thing.

The Dems won't take it further as the court does not take notice of hear say. One needs facts\proof.
The dems are doing the same mistakes as they did the last election. They never learn. But I wished they did.

If everything was above board with his Ukraine scheme,why wont Trump or any of the high up people in the White House testify?

Clinton testified under oath about a blowjob. What Trump has been impeached for is far more serious.
 
Most normal people knew nothing was going to happen. The same as nothing happened to Clinton.

But something did happen. Clinton was impeached. Just like Trump.

I would like the money spent catching the MS-13 gangs. And then putting them to death.

Clinton's impeachment cost ~$12.5 million. Trump's impeachment cost ~$3 million.

The FBI MS-13 National Gang Task Force was created in 2004.

In 2012, Obama gave the feds power to seize MS-13's assets.

In 2018, Trump gave cities and states $50 million to fight MS-13.

I think the war on MS-13 is pretty well funded. I don't believe it will miss the $3 million spent on trump's impeachment.
 
TDS logic....

It's too expensive to use tax payer money to adhere to the constitution @ $3m.

Also TDS logic....

It's fine for Trump to take millions of dollars in taxpayer money to prop up his (inevitably) failing hotels.
 
But something did happen. Clinton was impeached. Just like Trump.

It's only a charge at this point, needs 2/3 of senate to convict and that's not going to happen with only Democrats deranged enough to vote yes. Impeachment was never going to succeed without any solid evidence, Democrats are using it as an underhand electioneering stunt. "Hey guys, Trump will win in 2020 as things stand we need to impeach him over something, anything or we're toast until 2024."

There's going to be the same sort of public backlash as when remainers tried to stop Brexit so I suggest anti-Trumpers make the most of this moment.
 
It's only a charge at this point, needs 2/3 of senate to convict and that's not going to happen with only Democrats deranged enough to vote yes. Impeachment was never going to succeed without any solid evidence, Democrats are using it as an underhand electioneering stunt. "Hey guys, Trump will win in 2020 as things stand we need to impeach him over something, anything or we're toast until 2024."

There's going to be the same sort of public backlash as when remainers tried to stop Brexit so I suggest anti-Trumpers make the most of this moment.

What public backlash? Over 50% of the population voted for parties offering a 2nd referendum on brexit. Only ~45% voted for the cons + bxp.

Brexit still entirely divides the country. There was no "backlash", just an unfortunate scenario where the votes for those opposed to brexit are split between multiple parties.
 
It's only a charge at this point, needs 2/3 of senate to convict and that's not going to happen with only Democrats deranged enough to vote yes. Impeachment was never going to succeed without any solid evidence, Democrats are using it as an underhand electioneering stunt. "Hey guys, Trump will win in 2020 as things stand we need to impeach him over something, anything or we're toast until 2024."

There's going to be the same sort of public backlash as when remainers tried to stop Brexit so I suggest anti-Trumpers make the most of this moment.
What do you think will happen if Trump loses the multiple current supreme court cases and gets forced to release the information he is trying to hide and it turns out there is more solid evidence? If there is no solid evidence why is Trump trying to hide so much? Have you ever stopped to think perhaps its not an underhand electioneering stunt and that after Trumps previous immoral acts, high levels of corruption and fraud that just perhaps he has done more again? What if its not an underhand electioneering stunt and Trump has really done these things. Don't you think that needs acting on? How do you know Trump has done nothing wrong?

Don't you think someone that has been found guilty of State & Federal Crimes including fraud and corruption should have people providing oversite and checking what they are doing? Given Trumps history of 100% proven corruption, fraud, dishonesty and immoral behaviour why do you think he is so innocent of everything?

Don't you care about the high levels of Swamp Trump has created?
 
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Please try addressing the facts. Go on, be a devil. Treat yourself to a taste of reality.



I'll start by reminding you that I think the appointment of Hunter Biden was a clear case of nepotism. Do I need to explain what nepotism is?



I think it's entirely possible, yes.



Board experience, corporate finance experience, and legal expertise. I'm guessing you've never actually spoken to anyone who's worked on a board? Do you even know what the job involves? I have, and I do.



Why not? Also, where is the evidence of this alleged 'corrupt access and influence'? You must have some, right? Right?

Comedy gold this post
 
It's only a charge at this point, needs 2/3 of senate to convict and that's not going to happen with only Democrats deranged enough to vote yes. Impeachment was never going to succeed without any solid evidence, Democrats are using it as an underhand electioneering stunt. "Hey guys, Trump will win in 2020 as things stand we need to impeach him over something, anything or we're toast until 2024."

There's going to be the same sort of public backlash as when remainers tried to stop Brexit so I suggest anti-Trumpers make the most of this moment.

Corrected that for you. The GOP Senate under McConnell was never going to convict Trump. He could have been caught on tape handing state secrets to Russia and his base would have stood by him and the GOP would have spun it that Russia is in fact their biggest ally. What he did was impeachable. If the House failed to act then they are basically saying what Trump did was ok and he should continue doing it. Pelosi is a clever political operator, she knew they'd never get a conviction but it still had to be done. This is nothing like Brexit and leave and remain, that is the worst analogy ever! If there was going to be a backlash why isn't Trump on 50+ approval ratings? He's the only POTUS since polling began never to reach 50% approval. The polls don't lie.
 
If the Democrats had actual evidence of wrongdoing and Republican's voted it down at the senate level out of blind loyalty they would get destroyed in the next elections, much like Democrats are going to be as things currently stand. Pelosi delaying things to find evidence after already having voted to impeach, what a joke it makes a mockery of the US justice system.

The base of either side will likely not change their minds but the undecided/neutral voters who can swing elections in either direction will vote on the side of respecting Democracy and sanity just as they did in the recent UK elections.

The Democrat party policy for 2020 so far is either "don't vote for Trump he's evil and you'd be a Nazi" or "free stuff for anyone socialism rules" depending on which extreme end of the party you look at. They have nothing sensible to offer just constantly telling people Trump is working for Russia, if he is then Russia must want the US to have a strong economy for some strange reason.
 
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I would love to know Adam Schiff refused to go in front of the House Judiciary Committee. He did send Daniel Goldman
who refused to answer all the questions put to him by Doug Collins.

I think Schiff has been caught out :)


 
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