Soldato
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If the Democrats had actual evidence of wrongdoing and Republican's voted it down at the senate level out of blind loyalty they would get destroyed in the next elections, much like Democrats are going to be as things currently stand. Pelosi delaying things to find evidence after already having voted to impeach, what a joke it makes a mockery of the US justice system.
The base of either side will likely not change their minds but the undecided/neutral voters who can swing elections in either direction will vote on the side of respecting Democracy and sanity just as they did in the recent UK elections.
The Democrat party policy for 2020 so far is either "don't vote for Trump he's evil and you'd be a Nazi" or "free stuff for anyone socialism rules" depending on which extreme end of the party you look at. They have nothing sensible to offer just constantly telling people Trump is working for Russia, if he is then Russia must want the US to have a strong economy for some strange reason.
Seriously? This is as partisan a time as I have ever known in my 49 years. Let's not forget that the GOP basically ran a House and Senate campaign of obstruction to anything Obama put forward from 2012 onwards. The GOP were NEVER going to vote for impeachment or to convict. Trump wouldn't allow that and anyone that did/does would get his full wrath on twitter and at rallies. Unlike the Dems, some of which not only voted to impeach Clinton but also insisted he apologise for lying and having an affair. Can you imagine the GOP telling Trump to admit he was wrong? LOL! As for whether they pay a price for this come Nov 2020, only time will tell. Some in purple states like Collins will be worried.
Pelosi is talking of delaying because McConnell is refusing to say what the format of the trial will be. All he is saying is that he is working hand in hand with the WH. The foreman of the jury is working hand in hand with the lawyers for the person on trial. Yeah that isn't anything to raise concern.
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You have no idea what is going to happen in Nov 2020. None of us do. We may not know who the candidate is until June, although we'll probably know before that. Then the real campaigning starts. At the moment the candidates are looking for voters from Democratic voters, after Junes they have to start appealing to swing voters as well.
Who knows how many more scandals will happen from Trump between now and Nov. His tax cases will be through the SC as will whether he can be investigated by a State grand jury, those results will be announced in June. On previous SC rulings it doesn't look good. Both around the Clinton and Nixon impeachments the SC voted 9-0 against the President and that he could be investigated.