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You've been given evidence and you're choosing to ignore it so proving the claim that you're attempting to refute, this started out with you saying that you were "still waiting for anyone to back up the claim that fair discussion (of why a person supports Trump) has been attempted many times. Or even once." mainly because people were dismissive of people who supported Trump, yes?
I presented you with evidence, and before you say it putting forward a reasoned and logical argument based on statistical evidences is in-itself evidence, and you've done what started all this, you've made it impossible to have a discussion because you will not allow a discussion and don't want one, you've essentially proven the claim that 'the other side' dismisses evidence without rhyme or reason and you've proven that the 'the other side' prefers to put anecdotal evidence above empirical.
Can you actually take part in the discussion?
You have a habit of just posting a random link, then saying thank you. Not helpful in the slightest.
I am not clicking to find out what it might potentially be about, especially when it's faux news .
Well if you would have looked at the link it's all the discussion one needs when talking about the Chinese virus and how to deal with it.
And as for "posting a random link" have you not seen all the random twitter links? or can only the english Trump haters do it?
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So it should be in the Covid-19 sub forum then, as it's nothing to do with Trump?
Faux news is not a news outlet. There are an entertainment service.
I did laugh at last night's attempt by Trump to have Dr Redfield change what he said amide Trump's claim that he was misquoted. However when asked by a reporter after giving his forced statement, Redfield stated he was accurately quoted.
I did laugh at last night's attempt by Trump to have Dr Redfield change what he said amide Trump's claim that he was misquoted. However when asked by a reporter after giving his forced statement, Redfield stated he was accurately quoted.
The Twitter links are usually fro Trump's own POTUS accou t so not random. Anything posted is usually followed with a comment or a talking point. Not just a link with no valid info just thanks. That's not helpful.
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Now that Trump has stopped calling it the Chinese virus his devotees have to keep the fire burning.
It was what I claim as before that point I had tried to engage that Trump supporter multiple times. It was not the first time I asked reasonable questions or even the first time I asked those questions. You can see in that post that I back refer to his response that was unreasonable. I gave some evidence they didn’t like so they used deflection and lied so as not to respond. I called plasmahal out on that lie and they used 3+ more deflections posts. If you have time check out plasmahal 50+ posts before that point. Almost complete one liners full of deflections and memes and shouting but no one wants to debate. From what I recall it was pretty much 50+ posts of deflections. When we do debate in a reasonable way we get more deflections.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33294371 plasmahal response was to post a joke video following by a number of memes and one liners in the following posts to avoid answering questions or debating. Bonus points they had multiple times been shouting no one wants to debate with me. Well I tried and its not possible as these are the type responses we got.
There are many examples like that of what you asked for but I am not going to spend more time digging though old posts. As I said plasmahal has used that trick to many times on to many people to make them waste time.
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Exactly look at how animated Trump was to ensure Dr Redfield said what he wanted. It must have bothered Trump so much he made it the first topic of the "briefing". He practically jumped in when the reporter asked the accuracy of the quote. So you can bet he was hauled in immediately to walk back his earlier caution. Its logical things will be more difficult if there is a combination of the flu and covid-19 particularly without a vaccine but no Trump doesnt want that he needs to give confidence they are doing a great job so we are back to its 15 soon to 1 or 2 cases narrative, it will go away like a miracle so things can open and "go back to normal". Still doesnt get no matter how much BS he spouts the pandemic will run its course in its own time not when you say it will.
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He looked like he wanted to strangle him with his bare hands lol. All the experts are walking on eggshells so as not to dent his fragile ego.
So has anyone been following the Joe Biden sexual assault allegations? it seems to be every bit as outlandish as the Brett Kavanaugh claim even to the point of the victim not being able to remember exactly where and when it happened. Everything they said about Kavanaugh being a horrible human being and always believing the victim has been thrown out of the window to protect Joe Biden. It's like Trump and his team lay traps for them and they fall into them every time.
Double standards on threatening Ukraine.
Double standards on sexual assault allegations.
Double standards on impeachment.
Double standards on dealings with Russia (Obama admin was very chummy with them).
Double standards on threatening Ukraine.
Double standards on sexual assault allegations.
Double standards on impeachment.
Double standards on dealings with Russia (Obama admin was very chummy with them).
Again, it all amounts to the same thing.
He used his charity and charity funds for his own benefit. Also, he admitted to spending charity funds on frivolous things that were clearly for himself/his ego:
https://apnews.com/7b8d0f5ce9cb4cadad948c2c414afd57
"The president admitted, among other things, to arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him. He also agreed to pay back $11,525 in foundation funds that he spent on sports memorabilia and champagne at a charity gala."
To be honest I am having trouble finding the Judges original statement that went along with it. When the ruling came out the judge put out a direct ruling statement to the press but I cannot anymore find that original press statement.
Some of the US legal speak can be tricky to understand. I am by no means a lawyer so please correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t page 2 under October 2019 refer to Trump reimbursing the charity money for the items he brought at auction. Those are the items he brought for himself/family.
Also further down.
“Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign.” Doesn’t that mean he used charity money to further his political campaign?
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I'm happy for them to investigate the allegation against Biden.
...if we are keeping a tally though:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.html
Alva Johonson, a former Trump campaign staffer, said she had to avoid a kiss from Mr Trump while on a trip to Florida in August of 2016. The White House has denied this most recent accusation, as have some members of the Trump team who say they were present.
Jessica Leeds, a former traveling salesperson, alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt while on a first-class flight in the 1980s. Ms Leeds was in her late 30s at the time.
Ivana Trump, Mr Trump’s first wife, once used the word “rape” to describe an encounter with him. The accusation was made in a 1993 book following a divorce settlement between the two. She has since softened her language, saying that she didn’t mean the word in a “literal or criminal sense”.
Jill Harth, a former business partner of Mr Trump’s, said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips, groped her breasts, and grabbed her genitals in what she described in a 1997 as an “attempted rape”. The encounter allegedly occurred at Mr Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, in one of his children’s bedroom. She also says that Mr Trump groped her under the table at a dinner with colleagues at the Plaza Hotel.
Kristen Anderson alleged that Mr Trump put his hand up her skirt and touched her genitals over her underwear at the China Club in Manhattan at some point in the early 1990s when she was in her early 20s. Ms Anderson was an aspiring model at the time.
Lisa Boyne accused Mr Trump of insisting that female models walk across a table at a New York restaurant in 1996, and then remarking on their underwear and genitalia. She was 25 at the time.
Cathy Heller says that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips during a Mother’s Day brunch at mar-a-Lago in 1997.
Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the mouth on two different occasions. The first incident was the first time that they met. The incidents occurred at the 1997 Miss USA pageant event, and in Trump Tower.
Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, has alleged that says that Mr Trump walked into a dressing room unannounced in 1997. She said that there were several teen beauty queens aged between 15 and 19 in the room naked at the time.
Karena Virginia alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her arm and touched her breast while she was waiting for a car after the US Open.
Bridget Sullivan, a former Miss New Hampshire, alleged that Mr Trump walked into the Miss USA pageant dressing room in 2000 while contestants were naked. She was 19 at the time.
Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Arizona, alleged that Mr Trump entered dressing rooms at the Miss USA pageant in 2001 while contestants were “half-naked”.
Melinda Macgillivray alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttock in a pavilion behind the main house of his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2003. They were in the middle of a group of people, she said, and it was during a concert performed by Ray Charles.
Jennifer Murphy said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her after a job interview in 2005. She was 26 at the time.
Rachel Cooks alleged that Mr Trump kissed her forcibly on the lips outside the elevator in Trump Tower in 2005. She was 22 at the time.
Natasha Stoynoff alleged that Mr Trump pushed her against a wall and forcibly kissed her in a closed-door room in his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2005. Ms Stoynoff, a writer for PEOPLE magazine, was there to interview Mr Trump.
Ninni Laaksonen alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks while taking photos outside the Ed Sullivan Theater, and before Mr Trump appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman. Ms Laaksonen was 20 at the time, in 2006.
Jessica Drake alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her and two female friends in 2006, when she was 32. When she pushed him away, she said that he asked her: “How much?”
Samantha Holvey, a former Miss North Carolina, alleged that Mr Trump treated women like “meat” and would barge into dressing rooms to inspect women. She said the incidents occurred in 2006, when she was 20.
Summer Zervos alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her by her shoulders and forcibly kissed her, and groped her breasts, while she was a contestant on The Apprentice in 2007. She said the incidents took place at Trump Tower in New York, and at a hotel in Los Angeles.
Cassandra Searles, a former Miss Washington, said that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks repeatedly in 2013 during the Miss USA pageant in 2013. She said that he also invited her to his hotel room.
Karen Johnson, who said Mr Trump pulled her into a tapestry by her crotch at a New Year's Eve party in the early 2000s.
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LOL
"People were predicting us to be worse than New York, like another Italy," DeSantis said. "They said that this week, one of the newspapers in Florida said we would have 464,000 people hospitalized. The actual number is 2,200. So we beat that by 462,000. But what we did very early was focus on the populations who are most at risk: Our senior citizens, and particularly our nursing homes and assisted living facilities."
As of Wednesday evening, the Florida Department of Health had reported 28,576 confirmed coronavirus cases with 4,455 hospitalizations and 927 deaths across the state. The discrepancy in the hospitalizations could not immeidately be reconciled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAUOurZIVfI
Can't wait to see the anyone but Trump brigade defend Biden lmao
No Trump supporter appeared to give a **** about the multiple sexual assault allegations against Trump so if all these allegations are true i expect America will be quite happy to have a 2020 battle between two sexual predators (yay?).
Trump has quite a substantial lead in allegations. A perfect amount of allegations actually, that sleepy loser Joe Biden cant even begin to imagine having. Sad! Many people are saying Trump has the very best sexual assault allegations.
Trump said a bad thing to his mate once, there's tonnes of actual footage of Joe Biden being genuinely creepy with women and children, how do the #metoo Democrats actually reconcile that in their heads? Perform some mental gymnastics and come out with "orange man bad" I guess
I will post it again in case you missed it two posts up:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.html
Alva Johonson, a former Trump campaign staffer, said she had to avoid a kiss from Mr Trump while on a trip to Florida in August of 2016. The White House has denied this most recent accusation, as have some members of the Trump team who say they were present.
Jessica Leeds, a former traveling salesperson, alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt while on a first-class flight in the 1980s. Ms Leeds was in her late 30s at the time.
Ivana Trump, Mr Trump’s first wife, once used the word “rape” to describe an encounter with him. The accusation was made in a 1993 book following a divorce settlement between the two. She has since softened her language, saying that she didn’t mean the word in a “literal or criminal sense”.
Jill Harth, a former business partner of Mr Trump’s, said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips, groped her breasts, and grabbed her genitals in what she described in a 1997 as an “attempted rape”. The encounter allegedly occurred at Mr Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, in one of his children’s bedroom. She also says that Mr Trump groped her under the table at a dinner with colleagues at the Plaza Hotel.
Kristen Anderson alleged that Mr Trump put his hand up her skirt and touched her genitals over her underwear at the China Club in Manhattan at some point in the early 1990s when she was in her early 20s. Ms Anderson was an aspiring model at the time.
Lisa Boyne accused Mr Trump of insisting that female models walk across a table at a New York restaurant in 1996, and then remarking on their underwear and genitalia. She was 25 at the time.
Cathy Heller says that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips during a Mother’s Day brunch at mar-a-Lago in 1997.
Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the mouth on two different occasions. The first incident was the first time that they met. The incidents occurred at the 1997 Miss USA pageant event, and in Trump Tower.
Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, has alleged that says that Mr Trump walked into a dressing room unannounced in 1997. She said that there were several teen beauty queens aged between 15 and 19 in the room naked at the time.
Karena Virginia alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her arm and touched her breast while she was waiting for a car after the US Open.
Bridget Sullivan, a former Miss New Hampshire, alleged that Mr Trump walked into the Miss USA pageant dressing room in 2000 while contestants were naked. She was 19 at the time.
Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Arizona, alleged that Mr Trump entered dressing rooms at the Miss USA pageant in 2001 while contestants were “half-naked”.
Melinda Macgillivray alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttock in a pavilion behind the main house of his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2003. They were in the middle of a group of people, she said, and it was during a concert performed by Ray Charles.
Jennifer Murphy said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her after a job interview in 2005. She was 26 at the time.
Rachel Cooks alleged that Mr Trump kissed her forcibly on the lips outside the elevator in Trump Tower in 2005. She was 22 at the time.
Natasha Stoynoff alleged that Mr Trump pushed her against a wall and forcibly kissed her in a closed-door room in his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2005. Ms Stoynoff, a writer for PEOPLE magazine, was there to interview Mr Trump.
Ninni Laaksonen alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks while taking photos outside the Ed Sullivan Theater, and before Mr Trump appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman. Ms Laaksonen was 20 at the time, in 2006.
Jessica Drake alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her and two female friends in 2006, when she was 32. When she pushed him away, she said that he asked her: “How much?”
Samantha Holvey, a former Miss North Carolina, alleged that Mr Trump treated women like “meat” and would barge into dressing rooms to inspect women. She said the incidents occurred in 2006, when she was 20.
Summer Zervos alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her by her shoulders and forcibly kissed her, and groped her breasts, while she was a contestant on The Apprentice in 2007. She said the incidents took place at Trump Tower in New York, and at a hotel in Los Angeles.
Cassandra Searles, a former Miss Washington, said that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks repeatedly in 2013 during the Miss USA pageant in 2013. She said that he also invited her to his hotel room.
Karen Johnson, who said Mr Trump pulled her into a tapestry by her crotch at a New Year's Eve party in the early 2000s.
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