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Doom Vulkan vs Open GL performance

drunkenmaster said:
Because there are probably 100 times as many people who own and game on 280x's than game on anything Pascal.... but they aren't sold any more so as we all know, those gamers are completely irrelevant, that performance increases on AMD cards is irrelevant.

Oh wait, I keep forgetting, anything that paints AMD in a positive light is irrelevant.

The future is also linked to the past. The massive majority of people who buy prebuilt computers and those who buy their own graphics cards for upgrades don't sell their cards and buy a new one every year.

If AMDs 3 year old cards are destroying Nvidia 3 year old cards today, then people currently in the market for a new card can think, RX480 vs 1060... wonder what the performance will be like 1, 2 or 3 years from now when most people buying cards today will still be using them. Old AMD cards get more support, have more forward thinking features and last much much MUCH longer, all relevant points for an forum linked to a store in which people are reading threads and making decisions on their future purchase.
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This is so true, I work in a large IT department and a very significant percentage of them game on their home PCs. Yet of them all only myself and one other guy would be what you would call an enthusiast who goes for a GPU upgrade every 1 year. The rest are running anything from 7950s to GTX 960s and most show no intentions of upgrading. The 4GB RX 480 at £175 piqued a few peoples interest because the price was right in their budget.

This forum has very enthusiast focused demographic (the clues in the name). In the real world the vast majority of PC gamers are using GPUs a few generations old and are on an upgrade cycle where they only upgrade when the game they just bought runs like utter crap.
 
triss said:
GTX 780's are past EOL status couple of gens old now
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Depends if your definition of EOL means . Manufactures End of Life means they no longer make the product, it does not mean they no longer support them. Well unless they are Nvidia Maxwell GPUs. Oh right, I see what you mean :cool:

It does seem a far too common occurrence where EOL Nvidia GPUs drop performance significantly compared to contemporary AMD EOL GPUs.

7970 vs GTX680 and GTX770
GTX780 vs R9 290
GTX780Ti vs R9 290X
 
For me a card is EOL when it either breaks or i sell it. When it gets old it just doesnt become useless. In this thread, one game, an API that isnt used in any other game. Sure it's great progress as is any advance in gaming. But, not an awful lot to get overly worried about if you have a relatively modern gpu.
 
setter said:
For me a card is EOL when it either breaks or i sell it. When it gets old it just doesnt become useless. In this thread, one game, an API that isnt used in any other game. Sure it's great progress as is any advance in gaming. But, not an awful lot to get overly worried about if you have a relatively modern gpu.
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I agree with this.

Still though, it is disappointing how badly the GTX 780 seems to have aged. And I've just come from an Asus 780 DCII.

Seems like the R9 290 was the best overall buy in recent years. Started off as a Titan competitor (was about 5% behind) and now it's up there with the RX 480 and even GTX 980 in AMD-favouring scenarios.
 
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chrcoluk said:
I suppose we define EOL in different ways.

The cards are still supported by nvidia hence I dont consider them EOL.

Whilst I am guessing you decide they EOl when they stop been produced.
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Yes to me its EoL when its no longer made .
Doesnt mean its still not usable i still have a 780 myself atm.
Nvidia still support the old 8400/8800 etc not actually sure if there is any Nvidia card actually there isnt some support for?
 
triss said:
Yes to me its EoL when its no longer made .
Doesnt mean its still not usable i still have a 780 myself atm.
Nvidia still support the old 8400/8800 etc not actually sure if there is any Nvidia card actually there isnt some support for?
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When they say support I think what they are specifically getting at is driver performance/optimizations etc and not just the ability to keep running the card, but you are right they still do support them.
 
Doom Vulkan SMAA vs TSSAA on GTX 980 TI @ 1080p ,Ultra settings

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SMAA
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SMAA also reduces Nvidia performance compare to TSSAA on Vulkan.
 
Rroff said:
Was on my tablet when I posted - on there with the lower pixel density the difference between SMAA and TSSAA really stands out and makes it look like SMAA isn't even working.
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Was going to say I am on a 4k screen and when making the images full screen you can see a difference but not to the point that SMAA isn't doing anything. It would be interesting to see a screen of no AA then to compare what SMAA is doing.
 
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