Dover Ferry Queues

[Irish_Tom]

Finally checked in. An hour after our originally booking departed and almost three hours after setting off from the hotel over the road.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Finally checked in. An hour after our originally booking departed and almost three hours after setting off from the hotel over the road.

Can you hear those ***** **** ******* seagulls too? My god they need to be eliminated.

 

[Irish_Tom]

Can you hear those ***** **** ******* seagulls too? My god they need to be eliminated.

I live in Cornwall, seagulls are like white noise to me.

 

[DarkHorizon472]

It seems until now the pandemic and its lingering effects to a degree have hidden the reality of the new operating conditions of Dover and other UK ports. The other side is the reporting that Dover asked the government for £33,000,000 to invest in capacity to alleviate the problems and was given instead £33,000.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

It seems until now the pandemic and its lingering effects to a degree have hidden the reality of the new operating conditions of Dover and other UK ports. The other side is the reporting that Dover asked the government for £33,000,000 to invest in capacity to alleviate the problems and was given instead £33,000.

Is there a news source you could link to for that, please?

 

[aVdub]

good luck .

need an OC (outside accredited) journalist on the ground at the ferry terminal to count the car kiosks available for the french passport checks ..
conservative mp exclusively says 12 .. other sources / itv / sky suggest 10/5/7 , and some new ones installed recently and maybe not operational yet ...
definitely a vagueness in the port of Dover details ... it does sound like the Boris truth disease

Counting and reporting correctly is pushing it a bit too far for a journo. Should start gently by showing people pointing towards France while looking angry.

 

[jpaul]

seagulls have probably been suffering from reduction in food supply in those sunlit uplands.

 

[aVdub]

It seems until now the pandemic and its lingering effects to a degree have hidden the reality of the new operating conditions of Dover and other UK ports. The other side is the reporting that Dover asked the government for £33,000,000 to invest in capacity to alleviate the problems and was given instead £33,000.

The quote failed?

This was in reply to @Dirk Diggler


That was in 2020 and tbh I would be wary of giving money to those that completely failed to build a marina correctly.

Calls for public inquiry after big waves stop boats using Dover’s new marina | ITV News

There are calls for a public inquiry into Dover's multi-million-pound new marina, which is lying empty because the waters are too choppy to moor boats. | ITV News Meridian

www.itv.com

 

[cheesefest]

How many of these people who are stuck in the queues only decided to go to France as put off by the queues at airports? They are spending twice as long and longer here.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

How many of these people who are stuck in the queues only decided to go to France as put off by the queues at airports? They are spending twice as long and longer here.

I’m surprised that so many Brit holiday makers are using the ferries and the Chunnel to visit France.

When I visited family in the U.K. in late May, it was €100s cheaper to fly and rent a car for a week than drive.

Flying Ryan Air remains a terrible travel experience, but it’s bearable if you’re sa a packet over regular scheduled flights.

 

[Uther]

I’m surprised that so many Brit holiday makers are using the ferries and the Chunnel to visit France.

When I visited family in the U.K. in late May, it was €100s cheaper to fly and rent a car for a week than drive.

Flying Ryan Air remains a terrible travel experience, but it’s bearable if you’re sa a packet over regular scheduled flights.

The airports have been carnage too recently.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

The airports have been carnage too recently.

We've just did Glasgow Airport to Tenerife and it was slick process every step of the way. Some airports and carriers are managing to provide a great service, Jet 2 seem to be doing really well throughout this summer.

 

[Chris Wilson]

Your statement hit me later last night that it didnt agree with my recollection of xenophbia in the dictionary, I thought it was more extreme, so I just checked the two main UK dictionaries
I hope Oxford and Cambridge are British enough for you, funny the definition is a little more extreme and seemingly more accurate than how your portrayed

Oxford (https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/xenophobia#:~:text=xenophobia-,noun,of people from other countries)
"a strong feeling of dislike or fear of people from other countries"

Cambridge (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/xenophobia)
"extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs, their religions, etc"

I would equate customs to culture and I am fairly certain language would fit well in that description as well.

Imagine a world where you openly think that holding that position is fine and not something you need help with.

When you look at Phobia generally (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/phobia)
"a type of anxiety disorder (= a mental illness that makes someone very worried and affects their life) that involves an extreme fear of something"

Bless you, maybe seek some proper medical help. I have heard that a lot of phobias can be dealt with to at least reduce their negative impact on peoples lives.

Of the multitude of words underlined above, perhaps the most salient has been ignored, the word "or".

Xenophobia is neither considered a mental nor physical health issue by the bodies that categorise such things. Merely a social opinion.

The pitches of both future UK Prime Minister's are strongly slanted at appeasing the many xenophobes, such is their clout

Curiously the pitch from the man of Asian origin is probably the most vehement against rampant immigration.

Not that he's got a car in hells chance of being PM, because , well, you know, the x word people who count now. The people you think need medical treatment..

 

[DarkHorizon472]

Is there a news source you could link to for that, please?

Sure, the first is from the FT which may not be available to non subscribers.

UK rejects Dover funding bid for more French passport booths

Cabinet office turns down £33m proposal raising prospect of long delays for passengers from January 1

www.ft.com

The second below is the guardian but there are various others with a quick Google.

Dover travel delays: who is to blame?

Ministers have pointed to a shortage of French border officials, while Paris says it is not responsible for Brexit

www.theguardian.com

 

[Doobedoo]

If only there was a special containment thread for people to go and chat about that stuff...

Either that or please direct them to the nearest bridge, it’s a depressing subject at the best of times. It’s like your mate who won’t stop talking about his ex who left him for someone else.

 

[DarkHorizon472]

The quote failed?

This was in reply to @Dirk Diggler


That was in 2020 and tbh I would be wary of giving money to those that completely failed to build a marina correctly.

Calls for public inquiry after big waves stop boats using Dover’s new marina | ITV News

There are calls for a public inquiry into Dover's multi-million-pound new marina, which is lying empty because the waters are too choppy to moor boats. | ITV News Meridian

www.itv.com

I wouldn’t be concerned about the ability to build extra capacity for land transit, a little pain while the works take place and then the extra capacity is available For freight and non commercial traffic. The bigger question is why was it not done since various EU countries invested heavily for this to prepare ?

 

[Chris Wilson]

The quote failed?

This was in reply to @Dirk Diggler


That was in 2020 and tbh I would be wary of giving money to those that completely failed to build a marina correctly.

Calls for public inquiry after big waves stop boats using Dover’s new marina | ITV News

There are calls for a public inquiry into Dover's multi-million-pound new marina, which is lying empty because the waters are too choppy to moor boats. | ITV News Meridian

www.itv.com

I just watched the clip, the marina was as calm as a mill pond, the pontoons as still as a gatepost. Some good footage there from ITV

 

[Dirk Diggler]

You've got to laugh when the person accused of being a xenophobe clarifies that he's actually a racist, and considers this some sort of personal victory.

 

[aVdub]

I just watched the clip, the marina was as calm as a mill pond, the pontoons as still as a gatepost. Some good footage there from ITV

Typical journo's

Even on a day with the worlds smallest swell, them pontoons move around like a mechanical rodeo bull, which can throw some people out that walk along the firmly fixed pier that runs alongside the empty marina.

 

[GordyR]

If only there was a special containment thread for people to go and chat about that stuff...

This is a thread dedicated to something that is a direct consequence of the very specific, ultra-hard incarnation of the "B-word", that our government chose to follow; and you cannot have an honest discussion about what's happening at Dover right now without mentioning it.

People might be bored of it, and I understand that, I really do. But it's not going away, so silencing people isn't helpful.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550440263516053504

These kinds of issues are only going to improve when people accept reality and stop this cult-like refusal to acknowledge the root causes, and begin taking positive steps to mitigate the consequences.