Dr. Disrespect permanently banned from Twitch

Still nothing? I'm still standing by my racism in some aspect of his life/past/connections angle, and Twitch stepping in because of the BLM uprising.
 
Ayahuasca said:
The only way you’re going to get the evidence you want to see is if Method go fully transparent and release the messages they were sent about his behaviour. They didn’t state that they weren’t aware of it, the statement says “of the extent”. How much more did they need to see before taking action?

I think what people are questioning is whether they’ve taken full accountability for what happened as the main statement they released suggests otherwise. They would have been within their rights to withhold information about him to the public when a police investigation was ongoing. Just as they haven’t released details on what Sascha is being investigated for. The organisation is tainted and it’s unlikely any learning will be done under that name. Some individuals might learn from it and form something new but that’s about it.
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The information they had has been brought to the public by those who informed Method of it. Plenty of images of this circulating online and from their own Twitter pages. The outrage was "why didn't you do something about it then instead of now", after so much new information was brought to their attention. Information at the time wasn't enough to take clear action, and when you have all the additional information - you regret it. No matter what course of action they took, they lose. Ban Josh, community hates you. Take no immediate action, community hates you.

The vast majority of Josh's WoW community hated on the girl for him being banned from Twitch, death threats you name it. This despite the immediate aftermath of those events being shown live on Twitch with her visibly shaken and distressed.

This isn't about what people are questioning though, it's you accusing them of withholding information, despite no clear evidence to show they did. That's unfair and why I quoted your first post.

The whole thing went far beyond the scope of Method, Many many Twitch and YouTubers have been called out for having committed horrible things.

Edit: you can read more about this in the updated reddit thread here including information from Sco's recent stream last week here
 
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.Lethal said:
This isn't about what people are questioning though, it's you accusing them of withholding information, despite no clear evidence to show they did. That's unfair and why I quoted your first post.
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I’m not sure it’s unfair to question whether they have been fully transparent with the information they were presented at the time. Do we just assume that everything that is public now is all they really had to go off? If so that sets a pretty dangerous precedent and doesn’t really line up with what Scott said in his video about realising there were multiple points at which he should have been dropped.

If it’s as crystal clear as that then they should have come clean and provided evidence alongside the statement of the information they were working off. A statement like that a year ago may have been a little more believable, not once **** has well and truly hit the fan. It’s your textbook PR emergency response and damage control.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
I’m not sure it’s unfair to question whether they have been fully transparent with the information they were presented at the time. Do we just assume that everything that is public now is all they really had to go off? If so that sets a pretty dangerous precedent and doesn’t really line up with what Scott said in his video about realising there were multiple points at which he should have been dropped.
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As I said earlier it's absolutely fine to question things. What Sco is referring to is with the benefit of Hindsight.

Ayahuasca said:
It was a bit more than that, the people at the very top of Method had been sent concrete evidence from the victims themselves but they weren't interested in dealing with it at the time.
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This isn't questioning. You're clearing telling us Method had concrete evidence, they did not and have talked in detail with regards to what specific information they had at the time.
 
.Lethal said:
This isn't questioning. You're clearing telling us Method had concrete evidence, they did not and have talked in detail with regards to what specific information they had at the time.
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They were sent some information on his behaviour that had a number of members questioning and initially doubting his side of the story. They were told not to worry about it and that it was being dealt with.
What exactly was it they received? Talking about it and telling everyone it was just the same information the public had at the time doesn’t really cut it for me.

I’ll admit that stating they had concrete evidence was perhaps reaching on my part but if what they were shown at the time was anything like those latest ones then to not take any action at all was ridiculous. Let’s not forget those latest pieces mention events as far back as 2017 so it was likely similar behaviour.

The only way out of this mess was full transparency. Instead they left it until a number of bombs were dropped at the end of last month and they had no other choice. Too little, too late.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
What exactly was it they received? Talking about it and telling everyone it was just the same information the public had at the time doesn’t really cut it for me.
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Josh had been talking with 2 girls on Discord that were under legal age. One of them used an anonymous account to get in touch with Method but did not give any supporting evidence. Method wouldn't take action unless the girl made an official report with the Police. She did not.

The girl he sexually assaulted filed a police report which the public all but guessed correctly, Josh was able to convince them that the truth would come out and everything would be fine. During one of the race to world first a clip went viral of Josh talking about the investigation here

Prior to events in June, that's what they knew about Josh.

Blizzard were aware of this and had spoke to them in an offical capacity. Method told them they were looking into it. Method did a poor job looking into it, if it all at the time besides speaking to him a few times. On the other hand, Blizzard also did a poor job by taking no action themselves other than talking to Method.
 
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Method did a poor job of handling that situation but I think they were out of their depth. But there were far too many incidents where they did nothing, the way he treated that girl on stream was a disgrace and that's without knowing the full horrors of what he actually did to her.

I was surprised he didn't get locked up or banned from twitch after that car crash.

The way scos GF came out and tried to play the victim and get attention from it was a disgrace where she had known about josh & the CEO that was up to shady **** also.
 
.Lethal said:
Josh had been talking with 2 girls on Discord that were under legal age. One of them used an anonymous account to get in touch with Method but did not give any supporting evidence. Method wouldn't take action unless the girl made an official report with the Police. She did not.

The girl he sexually assaulted filed a police report which the public all but guessed correctly, Josh was able to convince them that the truth would come out and everything would be fine. During one of the race to world first a clip went viral of Josh talking about the investigation here

Prior to events in June, that's what they knew about Josh.

Blizzard were aware of this and had spoke to them in an offical capacity. Method told them they were looking into it. Method did a poor job looking into it, if it all at the time besides speaking to him a few times. On the other hand, Blizzard also did a poor job by taking no action themselves other than talking to Method.
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So it looks like they had more than enough information to act on then? There's still no detail as to what Blizzard's official contact with them was. At the very least he should have been suspended whilst the investigation was ongoing.

Witholding information might be a stretch but not doing enough with the information they already had certainly seems to be the case. You don't leave stuff like that to chance or just take his word for it when young adults and kids are involved.
 
not to sound like a dick but maybe take the method chat to a new thread? seems it would warrant it and would help de-clutter this already cluttered one.
 
chroniclard said:
Massive nerds offtopic gossiping over some nomark wow players. :p
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Certainly offtopic but these players or the guild weren't nomark. I'm not surprised you've came to that conclusion with the level of effort you put into your posts though :)

You regularly post on a computer forum and discuss games on a daily basis, does that make you a massive nerd as well?

Thekwango said:
not to sound like a dick but maybe take the method chat to a new thread? seems it would warrant it and would help de-clutter this already cluttered one.
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Agreed, I suggested this earlier but didn't heed my own advice!
 
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