Drones over gatwick..

jmc007 · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:30

Bruce's solution I can not fault with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmgTBjK_aZ0

American troops still pulling out of Syria b.t.w.? It did cross my mind how many are stranded at Gatwick, somewhat like our troops could be in Syria should US pull out.

Nasher · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:31

Rroff said:
Not really the kind of target that system was designed for though I have no idea of the effectiveness in the hands of the right operator.

If the drone is a big one like they say it should be no problem. The drones they use for target practice arne't that big.

V_R · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:32

ultralaser said:
I take it you missed my posts

Obviously yes, I missed your informative one liners.....

StriderX · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:33

Nasher said:
If the drone is a big one like they say it should be no problem. The drones they use for target practice arne't that big.

I wasn't going to amuse you with a reply, but whatever, this fantasy isn't happening, no sane PM is going to launch ******* missiles over London.

GSXR Gaz Mc · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:35

seems some of the pics ive seen they are using the aersocope drone detection system from dji

Yadda · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:35

This video and the comments have it all figured out, just like Twitter does.

I hope MI5 have seen it.

Secret_Window · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:36

It makes you wonder whether the military would use this opportunity to use some of the latest technology they have, but whether it's helpful or not is another matter...

Rroff · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:36

Nasher said:
If the drone is a big one like they say it should be no problem. The drones they use for target practice arne't that big.

IIRC the drones they use for target practise are around man size and move at 200+ MPH rather than a typical quadcopter drone profile.

EDIT: OK the Banshee can go as low as ~40mph but the average drone is sub 30mph. I have absolutely no idea what capabilities rapier missile have in terms of engaging a target like that though I only know their intended design parameters.

Werewolf · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:40

Rroff said:
IIRC the drones they use for target practise are around man size and move at 200+ MPH rather than a typical quadcopter drone profile.

Yup.

As the military want their people actually firing at something that is at least close to what they'd be facing in real life and big enough for their equipment to get a target lock on.

I wonder if some people don't realise that a "drone" is a generic term that includes everything from a budgie size toy to potentially a modified 747.

Secret_Window · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:42

As crazy as it sounds we may end up with military choppers, drones and other aircraft looking for it next, simply because the level of disruption is just going on and on with nothing else working...

I'm probably being extreme.

GSXR Gaz Mc · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:44

Fourstar · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:45

Rroff said:
IIRC the drones they use for target practise are around man size and move at 200+ MPH rather than a typical quadcopter drone profile.

EDIT: OK the Banshee can go as low as ~40mph but the average drone is sub 30mph. I have absolutely no idea what capabilities rapier missile have in terms of engaging a target like that though I only know their intended design parameters.

Trouble with these missiles is they all use fragmentation explosion warheads. There is a high chance of collateral damage at low level in built up areas when shrapnel starts raining down.

Nasher · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:48

Rroff said:
IIRC the drones they use for target practise are around man size and move at 200+ MPH rather than a typical quadcopter drone profile.

EDIT: OK the Banshee can go as low as ~40mph but the average drone is sub 30mph. I have absolutely no idea what capabilities rapier missile have in terms of engaging a target like that though I only know their intended design parameters.

They will hit anything visible on radar. Moving or not.

But yea, it could be a PR disaster to fire off military equipment in an airport

Narj · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:49

Are they really saying they can't track the owners with thermal cameras from a helicopter? 2.4GHz doesn't have a massive range...

If you're worried about stray bullets then either use a drone of your own to follow them, or use a wide spread firearm to take them out?

Secret_Window · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:51

One of the tin foil hat conspiracies I have read is that this a training operation to simulate the type of threats and disruption post-Brexit... A bit out-there but interesting theory I guess.

Malt_Vinegar · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:52

Narj said:
Are they really saying they can't track the owners with thermal cameras from a helicopter? 2.4GHz doesn't have a massive range...

If you're worried about stray bullets then either use a drone of your own to follow them, or use a wide spread firearm to take them out?

All of these points have been covered in this thread.

If it was easy to solve, it would have been solved already...

Rroff · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:53

Secret_Window said:
One of the tin foil hat conspiracies I have read is that this a training operation to simulate the type of threats and disruption post-Brexit... A bit out-there but interesting theory I guess.

I can't really see it - I find the more out there conspiracy ideas actually more likely that it is covering up for something else (if it was something other than what is reported).

Nasher said:
They will hit anything visible on radar. Moving or not.

But yea, it could be a PR disaster to fire off military equipment in an airport

I really can't say how efficient it would be against a typical quadcopter type drone but it is one of the areas that resulted in these systems supposedly being replaced in 2019 (looks like it has been pushed back now) and not in the original design parameters.

robj20 · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:54

Narj said:
Are they really saying they can't track the owners with thermal cameras from a helicopter? 2.4GHz doesn't have a massive range...

If you're worried about stray bullets then either use a drone of your own to follow them, or use a wide spread firearm to take them out?

If it's using 2.4ghz, can fly remotely via the mobile network. Could be sat at home hundreds of miles away flying it.

Yadda · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:54

Malt_Vinegar said:
All of these points have been covered in this thread.

If it was easy to solve, it would have been solved already...

You're forgetting the (TBA) reason why "they" aren't telling us the (TBA) truth.

Secret_Window · 20 Dec 2018 at 23:54

Rroff said:
I can't really see it - I find the more out there conspiracy ideas actually more likely that it is covering up for something else (if it was something other than what is reported).

Probably. I guess if is covering for something else it might be to not cause panic...