Dunno about the odds of getting what you think but whoever is behind the site has a loose grasp on the english language.
Er, ok.
E-Scooter discussion after fatal collision
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Dunno about the odds of getting what you think but whoever is behind the site has a loose grasp on the english language.
Er, ok.
after the hover board fires ... ok maybe that was a year ago ... what are the CE markings/qualification of escooters to avoid a repeat performance...
maybe the batteries just keep your feet warm if you're going up a hill ? I doubt my comapny would look kindly on me re-charging one in the office.
maybe the batteries just keep your feet warm if you're going up a hill ? I doubt my comapny would look kindly on me re-charging one in the office.
Way to miss the point.
An electric scooter is to the scooter what an electric bike is to the bicycle, in both cases it's the same quintessential otherwise road legal vehicle with an electric motor added on.
but a scooters not road legal - is it ? (in the uk anyway), versus a bike, which is;
so an escooter seems to be making the evolutionary jump onto the road, without any presidential legal framework, unlike an ebike.
(as commented) the small wheels, near the road edge, in the UK, negotiating pot-holes and drains sounds a nightmare,
on dedicated segregated cycle infrastructure, maybe they could be allowed, but many cities (like Cambridge) have incomplete cycle-ways.
so an escooter seems to be making the evolutionary jump onto the road, without any presidential legal framework, unlike an ebike.
(as commented) the small wheels, near the road edge, in the UK, negotiating pot-holes and drains sounds a nightmare,
on dedicated segregated cycle infrastructure, maybe they could be allowed, but many cities (like Cambridge) have incomplete cycle-ways.
Got a source for that? I don't believe a kick scooter is road legal. Or pavement legal.
Pushbikes on the other hand are specially mentioned in law due to a long history. So there really is something for ebikes to piggyback on.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-kick-starts-work-on-future-of-mobility-grand-challenge
I dunno about the aim being to allow electric scooters. It's a look at transport now and the foreseeable future.
Under the section of electric vehicles I wouldn't be surprised if electric scooters were given some consideration.
Ahh right thanks, I did only half hear it on the news
Looks like TfL are trying to encourage a quicker update to the legislation: https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-02/electric-scooter-review-should-be-accelerated-tfl-says
...which is long overdue!
...which is long overdue!
Good news! I've rode past a few police this week on my way to work and never had them as much bat an eyelid.
Certainly beats driving too! Gone from taking 45 minutes to get home to now taking 20. Barely been driving either unless it was for a food shop.
Certainly beats driving too! Gone from taking 45 minutes to get home to now taking 20. Barely been driving either unless it was for a food shop.
the government should encourage people to use these forms of transport not ban them and fine them.
the law needs to be reviewed so they're speed limiting like e-bikes etc but are fully legal.
you want fewer cars, more electric scooters etc so keep up with technology and update the laws.
the law needs to be reviewed so they're speed limiting like e-bikes etc but are fully legal.
you want fewer cars, more electric scooters etc so keep up with technology and update the laws.
the more people get on cycles, scooters, skateboards etc the sooner the london congestion will drop.
the reality is that driving a car in central london is not needed.
I cycled for 5 years straight to work through central london and survived even after 25k miles.. it's not rocket science, it's just people need to accept that it is the way forwards in big busy cities and drop their cars.
I cycle every sunday morning at 6am and have almost been killed 3 times in about 4 years. if that's the going rate at 6AM on a sunday, i'm not going to see what happens in rush hour, I don't care what your stats are.
I don't know if congestion will drop, you'll just get scooter congestion, which would probably be worse to some degree cos people would be milling about in lanes w/ little organisation. it's also totally impractical for multiple people, people w/ families, people wanting to pick up shopping of any decent size other than would fit in a backpack, and totally crap in bad weather. it's not THE way forward, it's A way forward, and not a very appealing one.
I don't know if congestion will drop, you'll just get scooter congestion, which would probably be worse to some degree cos people would be milling about in lanes w/ little organisation. it's also totally impractical for multiple people, people w/ families, people wanting to pick up shopping of any decent size other than would fit in a backpack, and totally crap in bad weather. it's not THE way forward, it's A way forward, and not a very appealing one.
I agree and disagree at the same time. I agree they'll never replace cars because as you say if you're travelling with someone else or if you need to do some shopping, the car is king. But for the commute in the morning? I feel more people will move towards PEVs in the future. They're only crap in bad weather if you don't have clothes suitable for being in bad weather
Look at China and their bicycle madness .
You want that commie filth in London?
You make me sick.
It's people like you lot that make Britain the 3rd world, washed out, post empire, cesspit that it is.
When we finally Brexit I hope you lot are deported for treason and unpatriotic activity.
You want that commie filth in London?
You make me sick.
It's people like you lot that make Britain the 3rd world, washed out, post empire, cesspit that it is.
When we finally Brexit I hope you lot are deported for treason and unpatriotic activity.
Most non-enclosed transport is used as "good weather only" transport for the vast majority. When it's dark at 7am on a wintery 3'c morning filled with rain and mist most people will swap back to toasty warm cars rather than get "suitable" clothes, it's been like that with motorbikes/cyclists for years so I don't see e-scooter riders being any different.
Depends on your work situation, no? At an old job I had no parking so I had to cycle in. Rain, shine, snow or sleet it made no difference.
The only reason why I don't ride my motorbike all year round is due to where I live and not having somewhere I can lock it up safely. Driving is actually my least favourite form of transport. The defining reason why I went for a PEV over using my bicycle is that I'm not allowed to use the showers in work and I only have to turn a pedal once before it looks like I've been swimming.
On the very same website quoted by the op.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48106617
Unless a vehicle is specifically prohibited, it is road legal by default.
I have two Xiaomi M365 escooters (I know, child killer that I am)
Honestly they are much better than most people would expect. They are much larger than your normal kids scooter and amazingly smooth/stable, not quite as good as my Boardman hybrid commuting bike, but not bad. I rarely use them in public places due to their legality, but have gone on some exploratory journeys to see what they are like and certainly think these and eBikes that don’t need peddling should be made legal, they are a great way to commute and should be accepted as a cycle with a speed cap of say 15mph on the road, that is a good cycling speed when commuting.
Personally if overhauling the law, I’d really consider allowing cycles and scooters on pavements if limited to 4mph (same as disability vehicles), but getting people to ride responsible with pedestrians is quite a stretch, which is a shame.
Overall, if you want to save the planet, promoting self powered (up to12/ 15mph) transport like these should be considered, although safety is pretty much identical to bikes. Oddly, the M365 has lights built in and even a brake light, something that is a welcome standard feature. J honestly can’t see why wearing a helmet and riding these things like a bike should not be allowed, but then that’s only coming from me using them and being impressed.
This sums up the 1st gen m365 for commuting that I have:
Honestly they are much better than most people would expect. They are much larger than your normal kids scooter and amazingly smooth/stable, not quite as good as my Boardman hybrid commuting bike, but not bad. I rarely use them in public places due to their legality, but have gone on some exploratory journeys to see what they are like and certainly think these and eBikes that don’t need peddling should be made legal, they are a great way to commute and should be accepted as a cycle with a speed cap of say 15mph on the road, that is a good cycling speed when commuting.
Personally if overhauling the law, I’d really consider allowing cycles and scooters on pavements if limited to 4mph (same as disability vehicles), but getting people to ride responsible with pedestrians is quite a stretch, which is a shame.
Overall, if you want to save the planet, promoting self powered (up to12/ 15mph) transport like these should be considered, although safety is pretty much identical to bikes. Oddly, the M365 has lights built in and even a brake light, something that is a welcome standard feature. J honestly can’t see why wearing a helmet and riding these things like a bike should not be allowed, but then that’s only coming from me using them and being impressed.
This sums up the 1st gen m365 for commuting that I have:
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