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eBay - RX6800 eBay Sale Going Wrong

varkanoid said:
Some people now use UV pens, if you sign the cooler with your signature and take photo proof of this including a photo of the serial etc then if you get a card back with no UV pen mark on it then you know its the wrong card sent back. Its not just proving to Ebay that you sent the working right card its the proof the seller needs to know that the card they got back is the card they sent. Taking it to the extreme they could then take this proof to a small claims court or whatever. Some people never dream that the item they send is not the item they get back. A lot of people using Ebay are dont realise how many scammers there are on it they might have had 1000 successful transactions. It can lull you into a false sense of security until you hit that bull Ebay Customer Service.

Its okay saying you cant prove it and you are wrong but it matters who you want to prove it too so in a way they are not wrong.

I understand what you are saying fortunately I've never been in the situation where an item that came back was not the same one I sent but I have come across Ebays bias to buyers many times. In any case they have shot themselves in the foot with the new managed payments anyway which will probably see a dip in genuine people selling and more scammers moving in.
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Doesn't really matter what you sign on it. There is still no proof that the card with uv writing on it is the card that was sent.
 
Wow, truly amazing how he still does not understand that you can not prove that the item you UV marked was the item you sent, I swear its not that complicated to understand
 
Acme said:
Film yourself, with no cuts and without letting the GPU or the box or the courier leave the frame of the video, keeping them completely within frame at all times.

Film yourself looking at the serial, writing on it with the pen, packing it, passing it to the courier, the courier putting it in their van, and driving off. Follow them on their route for a few miles in your car for good measure :p
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The problem with this, is that for it to be definitive proof, it would all need to be a single take. So you would have to wait for courier to arrive, then ask him to wait 5/10 mins as you pack and film it (which he probably won't do or be happy about). If you film yourself packing, and then a separate video of you giving it to the courier then there is no proof you didn't switch boxes or open it and take it out.

Add to how normally you get a wide courier slot it makes it very unlikely to do properly.
 
Love everyone who's absolutely certain they know how ebay works, yet completely ignoring the guy who's posted his experience of successfully challenging a scam buyer with the evidence you're all discounting as pointless.
 
I've won an eBay case before from a scam buyer, although not in quite the same circumstances as the OP. Sold a phone as faulty, buyer claimed it was faulty (well duh). PayPal initially refunded him, but after I submitted my case they took the refund back. Then he did a charge back with his bank, did the whole dance again, won again :D

So they don't always side with the buyer
 
Bug One said:
Love everyone who's absolutely certain they know how ebay works, yet completely ignoring the guy who's posted his experience of successfully challenging a scam buyer with the evidence you're all discounting as pointless.
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Thanks. its because they have never had to do it. People blindly quoting reasons when they have not actually been through it themselves.
They also seem to be missing the point that it proves to the seller that the card they got back is not the one they sent which is also conveniently being ignored. Its then what you do with that information as to how you get Ebay to understand. Anyway I`m tired of the subject now its way gone off topic.
 
This thread is depressing. How can any of you people even stay alive with all the negativity running rampant against true honest people who work hard?
That being said, I sold a completely dead Vega 64 for $250. No problems. But now after reading this depressing trainwreck of a thread, I think I'm afraid to even step outside my apartment anymore since some random airplane part is going to crush me randomly Final Destination style.
 
Yeah most of the "always side with the buyer" crowd haven't do seem to have never fought properly and won. I've been through it a couple of times and as long a you're reasonable and you took proper precautions, you'll get be eligible for seller protection. That way, even if the buyer gets a refund, you will too.
 
Zefan said:
Yeah most of the "always side with the buyer" crowd haven't do seem to have never fought properly and won. I've been through it a couple of times and as long a you're reasonable and you took proper precautions, you'll get be eligible for seller protection. That way, even if the buyer gets a refund, you will too.
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That is not a thing, you seriously need to re-read the terms, seller protection only protects the seller from negative feedback, there is zero seller protection on the money side, only for buyers
 
andybird123 said:
That is not a thing, you seriously need to re-read the terms, seller protection only protects the seller from negative feedback, there is zero seller protection on the money side, only for buyers
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Thats not quite true

Give refunds based on the condition of the returned item — you can deduct up to 50% from the refund for the lost value of the item
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also protects you from quite a few other things if you actually read it yourself.

robfosters said:
But how is that true if myself and others have successfully fought scam buyers?
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it was a few years at least since my case example I quoted above so its quite easily the case Ebay have changed terms of the Seller Protection Policy. It does seem to not protect sellers as much but it does more than andybird123 above said.
 
andybird123 said:
That is not a thing, you seriously need to re-read the terms, seller protection only protects the seller from negative feedback, there is zero seller protection on the money side, only for buyers
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Hmm, fair enough, the policy doesn't explicitly mention the thing I've experienced. I have experienced it though, perhaps I've misunderstood/am using an old frame of reference, but I've had ebay refund both parties multiple times now.

:Edit: Actually, it is mentioned under the "abusive buyer" part. It's another level of investigation, yes, but it's there. "Always sides with the buyer" just isn't true at all. I'm sure perfectly decent sellers end up losing out to scammers on ebay, but there are things you can do to put yourself at minimal risk.
 
Not really worth arguing over anymore its been done to death. Ebay is crap on sellers but it is possible to win. Might be more chance of winning lottery but it is possible to win.

Anyway OP give us more updates take us away from this Ebay policy dross !
 
Well there is a very unexpected "Oh Dear" here, which is that my shiny new RX 6900 XT is now playing up.
It's okay in some games, but I'm getting artifacts in Time Spy or Ungine Heaven, Port Royal doesn't run (error) and the Radeon Software won't even start now - doing a process trace on it crashes doing a ntfindatom ... Memory Issues?

Talk about a drama ...

ARRRGGHHH
 
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