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eBay - RX6800 eBay Sale Going Wrong

Soldato
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Then you have been very lucky.

look at it this way, there are people that are willing to rob an old women for £20, fact. These days with people advertising high value items online, all they need is an address. Can’t believe you people are doubting this actually happens. If you worked for the police, you would have a very different outlook. Google it. Are you saying all these robbery’s are caused by people but having common sense? No. They are caused by the scum of the earth.

You are taking a risk inviting anyone or going to anyone else’s door, street etc with high value items. Fact.

Luckily I don’t have to resort to dealing with the likes of gumtree etc to buy or sell.
Like I said, you can get issues with all forms of sale. Very lucky OR the likelihood of such events is much lower than you anticipate, you sound incredibly paranoid.

Lets compare these two graphics cards sales then, my 3070 via FB, nice bloke, 30 minute chat at the door, didn't even ask to see the card working, paid cash, gave him the receipt of purchase. Zero fees, zero chance of a fallback.

OP likely has a scammer, with overly bias buyer protection, hiding behind a keyboard full well knowing what he/she can get away with. OP could now well be approx £1000 out of pocket/will be wasting time trying to sort/even gets charged a fee for the privilege of selling the item. This is robbery, but online robbery, i'd bet you this happens much more everyday than someone going onto fb marketplace/gumtree, to get an address, to then either plan a robbery at a house/assault to take an item at a door.

You'd have to be incredibly dumb to have a facebook profile, with your name and picture on, message about an item and then also plan a theft for it I will also add.
 
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Watching the thread also; can't wait to see what happens!

PS: I sold a GFX in eBay 4 weeks ago for £310 and all good so far. I paid for the most expensive delivery with up to 500 insurance, I recorded serial numbers and posted them (incomplete) in the advert and I stated only UK buyers with 3+ positive transactions. The buyer haven't left feedback or acknowledged receiving the car yet but hopefully he just been lazy.

You should be find, since September last year I have sold motherboard, ram, cpu, 2x gpus and a monitor, only the buyer who bought my cpu gave feedback.

I recorded serial number on all items I sold before shipping out. However, I still worry each time:(.
 
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I recorded serial number on all items I sold before shipping out. However, I still worry each time:(.

Judging by the advice on this thread, you have done all you can to cover yourself - how could this go wrong? Or maybe a better worded question - how could the buyer get the better of you in this instance?

I'm following this thread with interest, it's not nice to see someone robbed so clearly. It seems that if there is a record of the serial number and tracked/recorded + signed for delivery, then you're sorted.

Just an alternative thought though - what happens if someone sends out a GPU on an auction site and the buyer says you sent him a brick or bottle of water on recorded delivery? Thankfully in OP's case the buyer confirmed receipt of the card.
 
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The person you mention wasn’t sensible, for not even checking the item before he left.

You don’t use Facebook for gumtree,

You sound extremely gullible.

I've sold plenty of stuff on FB marketplace. £500 was the highest value. I Haven't had any bother.
 
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Probs work out i reckon, its probs just the psu wasnt up to it, soon as seller tells him that after asking what psu etc he had and then the buyer realises his mistake and how to fix it by buying psu or whatever then im sure it will be fine. At least here's hoping.
 
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The person you mention wasn’t sensible, for not even checking the item before he left.

You don’t use Facebook for gumtree, I would have thought you would already known that considering how much you clearly do business on these sites. And if you believe that a Facebook profile is an honest portrayal of a person, then good luck.

If you want to live in Neverland then crack on. Hopefully one day you don’t get your jaw broken and your item taken off you.

Some people see the world through rose tinted glasses. And others are more realistic.

Like I say, google it. All the evidence you need.

You sound extremely gullible.

Realism /= pessimism.
Lack of paranoia /= gullibility.

Serious question, have you had experience of this happening? Because that would explain your attitude towards it.

If so, I'm sorry that happened, but it isn't a common occurrence.

If not, you need to think about why you are taking this hard line.
 
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The person you mention wasn’t sensible, for not even checking the item before he left.

You don’t use Facebook for gumtree, I would have thought you would already known that considering how much you clearly do business on these sites. And if you believe that a Facebook profile is an honest portrayal of a person, then good luck.

If you want to live in Neverland then crack on. Hopefully one day you don’t get your jaw broken and your item taken off you.

Some people see the world through rose tinted glasses. And others are more realistic.

Like I say, google it. All the evidence you need.

You sound extremely gullible.

Even then as per other posts in here eBay massively favour the buyer in 99% of circumstances.

I was referring to using fb marketplace with a fb profile, the gumtree site is absolute junk which is the main reason I rarely use it.

Oh come on, Google anything and you'll live your life running scared of what 'might' happen.

Do you have a partner? I hope not, should Google how many cases of domestic violence occur each day.

Do you go outside? Should Google how many cases of assault occur each day.

Do you own a contactless card? Should Google how many cases of fraud occur each day.

Socialise with friends? Should Google how many drunken related assaults occur each day.

I'm not gullible, I've sold things privately for about 13 years now and never had issue, I'm not denying it doesn't happen but my word don't live your life by what could happen as you'll never do anything and especially don't preach it onto other people.
 
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That doesn't change the fact that PayPal don't have the power to send bailiffs unless they take you to court and win, and if I knew I was in the right, I'd fancy my chances a lot better with an actual impartial judge than a minimum wage customer service rep who is acting solely in the interests of their company.

Speaking of taking people to court, small claims is always an option if the buyer does end up with a refund and doesn't send back your card.
Nevertheless, your claim that PayPal can't prove you owe them money was incorrect. They can take people to court if they want to, and if they did they would likely win, though they probably wouldn't bother over small amounts from an eBay sale. Most eBay disputes will come down to he said she said, unless the buyer is dumb then you will have no actual evidence that they are lying, in which case PayPal would have you bang to rights with TOS agreement should they choose to go to court over unpaid debt.
 
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Nevertheless, your claim that PayPal can't prove you owe them money was incorrect. They can take people to court if they want to, and if they did they would likely win.

And yet I've never heard of them doing so, despite the fact common advice across the internet is to unlink your cards/bank accounts and ignore them. Surely it would be in their best interests to make an example of people and publicise this fact? Or maybe they don't because they know they don't have a leg to stand on.

The only way they can involve bailiffs is by taking you to court and winning, e.g. by proving you owe them the money. A business's T&Cs don't trump the law in the UK, so - considering the only reason they can actually claim you owe it to them is because they said so (because for "reasons" they decided to give some money to someone and then decide to reclaim that from you) - I'd love to see them try :D
 
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Hi,

I had a Gigabyte RX 6800 for a couple of weeks, then managed to bag an Asus TUF RX 6900 XT for an extortionate price one evening whilst drunk.

So I put the RX 6800 on eBay. It was in perfect condition, all temps normal whilst running CB2077, FurMark, Crysis 3, Eastshade etc.

The card sold, I arranged shipment, and shortly after it arrived I get this message from the buyer:

Hello, I have plugged in the card and it very quickly got extremely hot and blew my PC, I have a professional coming around later to check the card, but it looks faulty!

If it does not work I would like a refund please and I will return the card.

Kind regards,
J.

The buyer has small amounts of positive feedback, and the destination address is in a respectable area.

But I have the feeling that I am about to lose my trousers in one way or another.
I have the original receipt, so if it really is faulty I could return it to <<competitor vendor>>.
But if I get back a bottle of water or a brick inside the box, that's not going to be so easy.

HELP

Very sorry to hear this.

If the buyer wants - they can simply say it's broken or not as advertised and request a refund. You have two choices:

1. Give refund. Buyer will have to return item to you. As long as they return something of the correct weight, they'll get a full refund. They could literally send you a rock in a box that weighs the expected amount (at least same weight as the parcel you sent)
2. Don't give refund. Ebay will step in and give the refund for you. If you do this - the buyer then gets to keep your item and doesn't have to return it.

So best bet is give refund and hope they send back your card. If they send back a broken card, you'd have to try and get this repaired under RMA.

Ebay did not inspect the goods when they were sold or when they were returned, so will not be willing to investigate. They'll just make sure the buyer is 100% refunded and that you have to pay for return postage.

You can request a crime number from the police and give this to ebay, this may make them do a goodwill gesture towards a certain % of the item, though you'll have to hound them for months for this.

Selling anything expensive on Ebay is a risk, especially electronics. Best to cancel bids/buy it now's if the buyer has a relatively new account (newer than 2 years) or if they haven't had at least 100 feedback from previous trades. That's what I do at least. So far I've sold a Radeon VII and a 3080 on ebay (for signicantly more than I'd get on MM), though I did have to cancel/relist several times due to new/low feedback accounts buying my items.
 
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I live my life by what does happen. That’s common sense!

People like you believe that pedophiles don’t buy houses opposite primary schools.

You have never had a bad experience. That’s great. But you are one person on a forum, why should I believe you, if we shouldn’t believe anything on the internet?

I’d rather be sensible and not risk something worth thousands, and invite some right dodgy character into my home whilst first listing what valuables I have, and where.

You’ve just admitted you rarely use gumtree as it’s “junk”. I didn’t mention Facebook, you did. I mentioned gumtree.
No, like I've said in pretty much every post, these things do happen, I haven't once denied that there could be a form of theft from selling an item. There isn't a 100% risk free way of selling anything. I wouldn't deny that, but then you're coming across based on your thoughts, that all houses opposite a primary school are populated by paedophiles.

I didn't say don't believe what you read on the Internet, just don't live your life by it as if you do that then you'll never want to do anything through fear.

The platform is irrelevant really, the principle is the same, you list an item, someone comes to view the item, pays then leaves.

I guess I just don't have a pessimistic view on things like you do.

God forbid you ever have to sell a house, which will give out access to your address, photos of the inside, floor plan for means of access and for people to come inside your property. :p
 
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I really feel for the op. I recently had some verbal correspondence with eBay as a seller and was treated with contempt.

I try and stick to Gumtree personally lowering the price to what it would cost you after eBay fees, generally gets your item sold.
 
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Having a valid point. Rather than throwing a little tantrum, mocking someone getting robbed on Gumtree?

Ive made my point? But you and the other one are fine?

Possibly reasons for that.

I see how this forum works now.
At the end of the day your tone and approach come across very aggressive. It stands out as more than just opposing points but quite confrontational.

Considering you've been here 2 weeks maybe you've read the room a bit wrong.
 
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