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I'm actually worried that it will be the opposite. People who just want to have LTE show up in their status bar sign up in droves. Other networks see this and decide they can pull off harsh data caps as well.
That's my dooms day scenario anyway
You're on 3G not 4G which is where the caps are applied.
They said they did a mountain of market research and thus priced it well. I wonder who they asked, the cast of TOWIE?
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One things that annoys me is that the government (and Labour who have already decided what they'd spend the money on) are expecting to make £4bn from the 4G spectrum auction. The carriers aren't just going to stump up that £4bn out of their pockets, they'll pass it onto the customers... us
. Can't they just be given the spectrum?Well technically the spectrum belongs to all of us and the government licenses it out and receives money that then is meant to benefit us all. In the end ultimately we do pay for it I suppose but you can choose if you want a mobile phone or not.
Well I was waiting for the EE launch to buy a new phone, and the recent pricing has made up my mind.
Just pulled the trigger on an iPhone 4S on Vodafone, well done EE for driving away a potential customer (who spends a lot on phones/calls/data for business).
Just pulled the trigger on an iPhone 4S on Vodafone, well done EE for driving away a potential customer (who spends a lot on phones/calls/data for business).
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What exactly do people expect other networks to charge for this then? EE have been pouring £XX amount per day into 4G for Xyears now there going to start to claw it back in the plans. The other networks are no where near even dummy testing when they do go live they will need to claw back costs. They wont just go ohh lets undercut EE by a £5 to get more business
Well if they don't have a pricing scheme that gives any benefit over the current 3G packages then they have wasted their money. As said earlier people are willing to pay the prices for the correct data caps. I was expecting to see 20GB data caps as beginning tiers for 4G, with perhaps a 40GB and 60GB option plus an ultimate unlimited package.
The current caps are a joke for what they are advertising the service can do.
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But thats the point maybe they dont want the people who use 20gb+ on 4g they want them to stay on 3g+
approx 80% of their customers use under 1GB a month
approx 80% of their customers use under 1GB a month
Vodafone 4G Promise?
As many have said, it's utterly pointless if you have a fast network with caps.. What's the point in that speed if your capping the damn thing?
If I'm going to do what I've done with 3G as it is, then I have no reason to switch.. 3G is cheap, 4G comes into play if your using data hungry services like Netflix.. Which is utterly useless if you've got a cap of 500MB or 1GB, a HD movie eats up 1GB+ alone right?
As many have said, it's utterly pointless if you have a fast network with caps.. What's the point in that speed if your capping the damn thing?
If I'm going to do what I've done with 3G as it is, then I have no reason to switch.. 3G is cheap, 4G comes into play if your using data hungry services like Netflix.. Which is utterly useless if you've got a cap of 500MB or 1GB, a HD movie eats up 1GB+ alone right?
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Vodafone 4G Promise? pretty poor compared to the EE one. 30% line rental charges and start another contract
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Sounds worse than the EE 4G handset exchange offer I've seen mentioned here but at least they're offering the option.
It'll still be a nicer experience than a slower network, I do feel sorry for people who sign up with all the talk about how fast 4G will be not realising they're going to get reamed by EE for the privilege of anything over 1GB.
I'm reasoning the same way but I'm just waiting to see the lay of the land once the Lumia 920 lands and the reviews start popping up, I'm quite tempted by the Three unlimited data sim only plan as I'd love to get away from my current data cap (I use it less because I know I'll go past the cap otherwise).
The whole thing is a bit bothersome, I don't understand why it's mentioned most of their customers are under 1GB because surely it's occurred to people making that argument that between slow/inconsistent speeds and data caps it's no accident they're staying under that amount?
Can't say I recall anyone telling me not to bother with broadband because you don't use that much data on your dial up, probably because it's fairly obvious it's hard to fully make use of something when you're getting a crippled service.
I'm curious where most of you think the average user will suddenly jump from 1Gb to 20Gb or some usage >8Gb as soon as they get 4G?
The average user is likely an employed person who commutes to work and uses his phone for email, Facebook, web browsing. In the typical day are all these people suddenly going to stop working and stream Netflix 24/7, are they going to disable wifi at home as they'd don't need it anymore?
Perhaps your argument is that the average person doesn't need 4G then, but why shouldn't they have the benefit of doing these things faster? What most of you on this forum want to do is push the network to its limit but will you really do all that streaming? Not to be rude but does the average user sit around for hours streaming content to their phone? And if you do you aren't an average user you're a power user and should pay a premium for doing so - get the 8Gb tariff and pay for addons if you go over that.
The average user is likely an employed person who commutes to work and uses his phone for email, Facebook, web browsing. In the typical day are all these people suddenly going to stop working and stream Netflix 24/7, are they going to disable wifi at home as they'd don't need it anymore?
Perhaps your argument is that the average person doesn't need 4G then, but why shouldn't they have the benefit of doing these things faster? What most of you on this forum want to do is push the network to its limit but will you really do all that streaming? Not to be rude but does the average user sit around for hours streaming content to their phone? And if you do you aren't an average user you're a power user and should pay a premium for doing so - get the 8Gb tariff and pay for addons if you go over that.
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Ok, so put it like this - 3G is more than enough for browsing websites/watching youtube - if you are doing that you don't need 4G, its pointless.
If we believe what we are told 4G will give us more bandwidth/speed. Great! now I can sit and catch up on iplayer/netflix etc on the way to work or stream my music collection from cloud storage. 4G will give me the speed to stream in HD. Awesome!
Oh wait, no I can't because its capped, turns out (going from figures earlier in the thread) that I can watch a huge 22 seconds a day, any more and I hit my limit.
Hmmm, ok so what if I just use it like I did before ? what do I get ?
A bigger phone bill
A web page that loads fractions of a second quicker.
Pointless, why spend the extra money ?
Quite, but the problem is they've invested in a product (as it stands) that isn't very useful, so why should we buy it just because they spent a ton of money on their network ?
I would suspect that other carriers will undercut by a small amount to get customers or offer sweeteners, I highly doubt other carriers will launch 4G at exactly the same price point.
If we believe what we are told 4G will give us more bandwidth/speed. Great! now I can sit and catch up on iplayer/netflix etc on the way to work or stream my music collection from cloud storage. 4G will give me the speed to stream in HD. Awesome!
Oh wait, no I can't because its capped, turns out (going from figures earlier in the thread) that I can watch a huge 22 seconds a day, any more and I hit my limit.
Hmmm, ok so what if I just use it like I did before ? what do I get ?
A bigger phone bill
A web page that loads fractions of a second quicker.
Pointless, why spend the extra money ?
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Quite, but the problem is they've invested in a product (as it stands) that isn't very useful, so why should we buy it just because they spent a ton of money on their network ?
I would suspect that other carriers will undercut by a small amount to get customers or offer sweeteners, I highly doubt other carriers will launch 4G at exactly the same price point.