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Saw a US ad last night for T-mobile Unlimited 4G data. lol
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Network infrastructure expansion can offset tax bills can't it? It's a bit chicken and egg to say price isn't the issue, data is, because if they didn't cap it then you wouldn't move to higher priced plans etc...I'm in a firm agreement they shouldn't be charging what they are though, their facebook page is hilarious right now.
There isn't even a single plan with a decent data cap, so that's just a pointless comment. They could still have expensive plans and much larger limits.
http://www.facebook.com/ee you can see it without an account on your phone or use the proxy of the TMC which I'm told is still open
They put up the train ad from the previous page with the title:
and the public started having a go for their limits, then some current EE employees fired back and then well, you get the picture. They should just moderate the page. I'm not really sure if EE are in charge of the FB page looking at it as the messages on it are all pacifying ones (eg "Our 4GEE plans cost more than 3G, so what do you get?") rather than brand / raise awareness messages. It will all blow over soon I hope but if this sets the precidence of just charging more for the same service then ultimately, all consumers will have lost.
Ok I got it now, different proxy but same password.
I see what you mean, it's a bit of a trainwreck there at the moment!
I just can't understand the logic behind the price differences at all, for example you want to buy an iPhone 5, on T-Mobile you can buy one for £109 and £36/month for which you get 2000 minutes, unlimited SMS and unlimited data.
Buy it on EE (same company) and it's still £109 up front, but now your £36/month gets you realistically the same voice/SMS amount (unless you use over 2000 minutes) but only 500MB of data!
Ok you can download faster, but unless it's the weekly free movie, who's going to be able to justify the cost?!
I provide my own phone/comms for work. I regularly have to upload/download raw test data and large files (tethered), so all the free bits are really no incentive to me at all. What I need is a sensible data allowance, I'm happy to pay for it but my pockets aren't bottomless pits (no matter what people think about contractors).
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What did you use to upload/download raw test data before? Surely you can just use that.
I think he means the raw data means large file sizes and therefore would plough through the low 4G data limits
Yes exactly, for example I'd go out testing all day and generate a volume of data logfiles/reports, then have to FTP it to central server at the end of the day for analysis.
The upload speeds on 4G would be nice, but not essential, certainly not at the prices quoted.
Is it conclusively known if the upload/download speeds are going to be capped on EE?
Hello guys,
Right... Few months ago T-mobile said I would be most likely be able to get a iPhone 5 for free since I have been a loyal customer of theirs for years.
Now my upgrade time is here I rang them the other day and it seems the loyalty thing as now gone out of the window. They told if I wanted a 16GB iPhone on the same plan I am on now (£36 full monty deal) that I would have to pay a additional £109 for the phone. Which is the same for new customers to?
Told them to cancel my contract and now just keep getting phone calls off them to try get me to stay, yet they will not budge on the IPhone 5 deal. They said Apple has fixed the price and it is same for all network providers? Yet Three are offering the 32GB for £37 a month and £89 upfront?
I bought a 4S from apple about a year ago separate from the contract so I might just go on a sim only plan. Got T-mobile to come from £21.50 to £17 up to yet on the sim only full monty plan.
Do you think I should go for this or is there better out there? The iPhone 5 is only a bigger 4s at the end of the day isn't it? I only use the phone for calls, texts and banking anyway.
Right... Few months ago T-mobile said I would be most likely be able to get a iPhone 5 for free since I have been a loyal customer of theirs for years.
Now my upgrade time is here I rang them the other day and it seems the loyalty thing as now gone out of the window. They told if I wanted a 16GB iPhone on the same plan I am on now (£36 full monty deal) that I would have to pay a additional £109 for the phone. Which is the same for new customers to?
Told them to cancel my contract and now just keep getting phone calls off them to try get me to stay, yet they will not budge on the IPhone 5 deal. They said Apple has fixed the price and it is same for all network providers? Yet Three are offering the 32GB for £37 a month and £89 upfront?
I bought a 4S from apple about a year ago separate from the contract so I might just go on a sim only plan. Got T-mobile to come from £21.50 to £17 up to yet on the sim only full monty plan.
Do you think I should go for this or is there better out there? The iPhone 5 is only a bigger 4s at the end of the day isn't it? I only use the phone for calls, texts and banking anyway.
Why would I get it if I wasnt. yes I live in one of the multiple large metropolitan areas 4g is covered in.
Its not pointless. Its expensive yes, but for what, £150 a year Im up for faster access.
Faster access to silly low limits.
Anything requiring the speed like streaming video will send you over the limit.
If you are just web browsing you can get a contract for about half the price and the extra speed is pointless. So way more than £150 a year.
So yes it's pointless.
And many people will not realize its city specific, hence the question.
Anything requiring the speed like streaming video will send you over the limit.
If you are just web browsing you can get a contract for about half the price and the extra speed is pointless. So way more than £150 a year.
So yes it's pointless.
And many people will not realize its city specific, hence the question.
Its expensive, but not pointless. Try to be a little more objective.
Whilst its understandable that people are annoyed at the data caps on the plans with the relative cost, I fear people forget that we have choice.
EE is not forcing anybody to upgrade or sign up to their 4g service. They alongside the other network providers offer a great 3g service that is very capable in most instances.
However, you cannot blame a business that has an advantage over its competition not to want to make more profit. Even when the other networks launch 4g the likely scenario is most punters will be oblivious to the benefits and will carry on using 3g until they are pushed to use 4g.
Look at what happened with digital tv. Tonnes of folk were happy to carry on using analogue, it was the manufacturers that made it impossible to buy a tele that didn't come with a dvb tuner. Most folk here might have had a freeview box from around 2000 but its only now, 12 years later that the last analogue signal was switched off!!!
EE is not forcing anybody to upgrade or sign up to their 4g service. They alongside the other network providers offer a great 3g service that is very capable in most instances.
However, you cannot blame a business that has an advantage over its competition not to want to make more profit. Even when the other networks launch 4g the likely scenario is most punters will be oblivious to the benefits and will carry on using 3g until they are pushed to use 4g.
Look at what happened with digital tv. Tonnes of folk were happy to carry on using analogue, it was the manufacturers that made it impossible to buy a tele that didn't come with a dvb tuner. Most folk here might have had a freeview box from around 2000 but its only now, 12 years later that the last analogue signal was switched off!!!
I guess because they're first to market and have no directly comparable product.
They will want to charge as much as possible for as little as possible to grab just enough customers so they can hit whatever target they have set themselves.
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So if you don't need them, no one else does? Don't be stupid, I commute in and around central London and sometimes pages can take a horribly long time to load not to mention the number of drop outs during streaming music etc which probably wouldn't happen on a faster service.
I was more than ready to sign up with them but those prices were like a bucket of cold sick, so good job EE for having the latest technology with last decade's prices.
The 12 month prices don't look like an utterly terrible way to cover the cost of a flagship phone, will wait and see what happens with the Lumia 920 before making a decision.I would love them and could do with 4g, I was all set to sign up, before they released data limits, but the data limits really do make it pointless.
Streaming music, good luck. You'll be able to stream for the first week then hit your cap.
2 hd (2.3Gb an hour) movies on netflix is more data than the top tier.
On lowest tier (500mb) you won't even be able to stream one film on lowest qaulity, which is terriable qaulity anyway. 300mb per hour.
Even on top tier at medium qaulity, would only give you 27hrs a week of music streaming and thats before you do anything else.
At 320kbs you would get 13.5hrs a week. Again before you account for web browsing or anything else. Those numbers are on the high side as that doesn't include overheads.
Streaming music, good luck. You'll be able to stream for the first week then hit your cap.
2 hd (2.3Gb an hour) movies on netflix is more data than the top tier.
On lowest tier (500mb) you won't even be able to stream one film on lowest qaulity, which is terriable qaulity anyway. 300mb per hour.
Even on top tier at medium qaulity, would only give you 27hrs a week of music streaming and thats before you do anything else.
At 320kbs you would get 13.5hrs a week. Again before you account for web browsing or anything else. Those numbers are on the high side as that doesn't include overheads.
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Almost looks sinister, Joe average signs up for 2yr contract, told he can stream films, runs into the cap, has to pay more or accept limits
I'm no longer annoyed I'm in a non 4g area, absolutely no temptation to switch from my 15pm unlimited 3 data sim
Terrible roll out ee
I'm no longer annoyed I'm in a non 4g area, absolutely no temptation to switch from my 15pm unlimited 3 data sim
Terrible roll out ee
I wonder if EE should have action taken out on them for misleading advertisements.
"The waiting is over. Watch TV, make video calls, play live multiplayer games and stream films on the move. All on superfast 4GEE from EE."
Seems pretty misleading to make average Joe believe he can stream films or do any of these things over 4G under any of the existing data tiers?
"The waiting is over. Watch TV, make video calls, play live multiplayer games and stream films on the move. All on superfast 4GEE from EE."
Seems pretty misleading to make average Joe believe he can stream films or do any of these things over 4G under any of the existing data tiers?
I don't get why the data allowances are so low. I'm on full monty 3g service for 36£ a month and I have been downloading easily 8gig, although I suppose I am not the usual customer. Thing is since I phoned them and asked, and they said there is no fair usage I barely bother putting my wifi signal on sometimes.
Exactly, sort of.
You can do these things (so no action can be taken) if you pay the extortionate add ons, which even if you don't use, you'll stll lose when your new month starts. On mobile broadband its £15 for 2Gb (no prices for phine data yet)so say you buy that a week before your bill and only use 1 GB, the rest of that add on allowance vanishes.
They won't even offer pay as you go data over your allowance, so you are forced to buy add on if you want data.