EE - 4G

Gavin · 30 Oct 2012 at 19:52

weringo said:
Off to pick up my phone in an hour, just had it confirmed in an EE store that 12 month contracts are £10 more a month and the phone price remains the same.

That means the Note 2 with 5gb data works out at a total contract price of £750 over 12 months. Assuming a phone cost of £550 (although I think payg handsets are retailing at £600), that's just £17/month for a 4G contract with 5gb data.

Not sure why more people aren't picking up on this but it appears a very reasonable deal

Thanks for pointing this one out

Looks to be a goodish deal

Lemmiwinks · 30 Oct 2012 at 19:57

Gavin said:
Hmm bit fishy this...............my upgrade date was 20/10/2012 and now today its changed........

Congratulations! You are eligible for an early upgrade.
You can renew your plan on 27-Nov-2012
Find out about an Early upgrade

Very odd indeed as my upgrade date was verified in store and on the phone when i asked about 4g and all the options have gone from my online account page to renew the contract for 20% off or get a new phone and 24month contract

very odd indeed.

The exact same thing happened to me!

I was able to renew almost 4 weeks ago but was holding off for the Lumia 920. Today I signed in and it says;

Congratulations! You are eligible for an early upgrade.
You can renew your plan on 01-Dec-2012
Find out about an Early upgrade.

I phoned T-Mobile and the person I spoke to denied it and pushed extremely hard for me to move to EE, almost to the point he was transferring me. I asked him about upgrading within T-Mobile and told me I'd have to pay a fee (£31) if I stayed with T-Mobile, even though my Sim-Only tariff is £4.89 a month and ends fully on the 1st of Jan (so £16 left until the end of my contract). He kept saying "What, you don't want 4G??" Mate, I live in the Highlands of Scotland, phone-signal at all is a luxury, I won't see 4G for years.

Dodgy as hell!

shuzzbutt · 30 Oct 2012 at 19:59

Gavin said:
Hmm bit fishy this...............my upgrade date was 20/10/2012 and now today its changed........

Congratulations! You are eligible for an early upgrade.
You can renew your plan on 27-Nov-2012
Find out about an Early upgrade

Very odd indeed as my upgrade date was verified in store and on the phone when i asked about 4g and all the options have gone from my online account page to renew the contract for 20% off or get a new phone and 24month contract

very odd indeed.

even though i only signed a new 2 year contract last weekend to get my lte note 2, my account shows I will be eligible for an early upgrade in april. Reason is I believe that as long as you have paid 6 months into your current contract you will be given the option to pay off the remainder of your contract with a 25% discount to go over to a ee 4g contract.

Lemmiwinks · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:03

shuzzbutt said:
even though i only signed a new 2 year contract last weekend to get my lte note 2, my account shows I will be eligible for an early upgrade in april. Reason is I believe that as long as you have paid 6 months into your current contract you will be given the option to pay off the remainder of your contract with a 25% discount to go over to a ee 4g contract.

Which is great if you want 4G, but they've completely wiped our discount if we just want to renew our current contract or upgrade to a 3G phone without a cancellation fee. It's little unfair. Right now it's a case of "switch to EE or nothing." I wish I had renewed back when I had the chance!

ps3ud0 · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:14

Lemmiwinks said:
Which is great if you want 4G, but they've completely wiped our discount if we just want to renew our current contract or upgrade to a 3G phone without a cancellation fee. It's little unfair. Right now it's a case of "switch to EE or nothing." I wish I had renewed back when I had the chance!

Damn that better not be the case - I was told to hold off renewing if I was considering EE. Now Im not and expecting to renew the £7.50 SIMO plan I was on.

Time to move from EE it seems

ps3ud0 :cool:

Gavin · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:20

Lemmiwinks said:
The exact same thing happened to me!

I was able to renew almost 4 weeks ago but was holding off for the Lumia 920. Today I signed in and it says;

Congratulations! You are eligible for an early upgrade.
You can renew your plan on 01-Dec-2012
Find out about an Early upgrade.

I phoned T-Mobile and the person I spoke to denied it and pushed extremely hard for me to move to EE, almost to the point he was transferring me. I asked him about upgrading within T-Mobile and told me I'd have to pay a fee (£31) if I stayed with T-Mobile, even though my Sim-Only tariff is £4.89 a month and ends fully on the 1st of Jan (so £16 left until the end of my contract). He kept saying "What, you don't want 4G??" Mate, I live in the Highlands of Scotland, phone-signal at all is a luxury, I won't see 4G for years.

Dodgy as hell!

wish id taken a screen shot

Gavin · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:27

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Touche I did!!!! i just didnt renew it? would that be evidence enough? i dont like what there up to?

EDIT ps the adult folder in my links is to weapons and a few adult forums not donkey smut

Lemmiwinks · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:34

Haha, whatever you say man...

But yeah, really odd. They're pushing EE as hard as they can. It doesn't make any sense for me to switch.

Out of curiosity, what £7.50 plan are you on? I'm on the sim-only £15 deal, but I get a £9.40 discount so pay only £5.60 (give or take VAT) a month for 600 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited internet.

Gavin · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:36

im not on 7.50 plan? what makes you say that?

Lemmiwinks · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:38

Gavin said:
im not on 7.50 plan? what makes you say that?

Oh, someone else said that. The avatars being similar is throwing me off!

Westyfield2 · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:47

sugoi said:
i can't find anywhere on the new EE site, where the sim only plans are? can anyone see where they are?

November 9th they're coming.

ps3ud0 · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:52

Lemmiwinks said:
Oh, someone else said that. The avatars being similar is throwing me off!

Same as you I guess but with a reduced discount (only 50%)

ps3ud0 :cool:

AndyCr15 · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:56

As has been said, the 12 month plans really aren't all that bad.

Sorry, I've not gone through the whole thread, is anyone else a long standing Orange customer? Will they offer any discount on monthly price? If I could get 3 gig on 12 months for £46 instead of £56 I think I'd pull the trigger....

BigBruiserAl · 30 Oct 2012 at 20:58

ps3ud0 said:
Damn that better not be the case - I was told to hold off renewing if I was considering EE. Now Im not and expecting to renew the £7.50 SIMO plan I was on.

Time to move from EE it seems

ps3ud0

I can confirm at this current time 0-6 in a contact you just resign and move to EE4G after 6 months it classed as a anytime upgrade which is monthly payment -25%(25% currently being looked at i belive)

On a side note that was the most hectic day in all the 11 years i been there the teams were ploughing through 4g sign up's so all good, when the other networks join in it can only get better for us price was (us as in consumer)

Westyfield2 · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:30

So has anyone here actually joined EE 4G? Even on the Mac Forums I haven't seen many people who've actually gone for it!

I did the maths earlier. Looking at an iPhone 5 64GB, on the 3GB data tariff. Note all prices I state are from ee.co.uk, apart from the SIM only tariffs which are from Gizmodo.co.uk and they reckon will launch on November 9th.
On a 24month tariff it's £46/pm.
On a 12month tariff it's £56/pm.
On a 12month SIM only tariff it's £31/pm.
On a 30day SIM only tariff it's £41/pm.

An iPhone 5 64GB costs £699 from Apple for an unlocked handset.
On the normal 12/24month tariffs, a subsidised iPhone 5 64GB from EE costs £219.99. Note that it's the same whether you're signing for 12months or 24months, it's only the monthly cost that changes.

So for 24 months service:
SIM Only rolling 30day contract: 24months x £41/pm = £984. + £699 (Apple unlocked handset) = £1683 over two years
SIM Only 12month contract: 24months x £31/pm = £744. + £699 (Apple unlocked handset) = £1443 over two years.
Regular 24month contract: 24months x £46/pm = £1104. + £219.99 (subsidised handset) = £1323.99 over two years.

So for 12 months service:
SIM Only rolling 30day contract: 12months x £41/pm = £492. + £699 (Apple unlocked handset) = £1191 over one year
SIM Only 12month contract: 12months x £31/pm = £372. + £699 (Apple unlocked handset) = £1071 over one year.
Regular 12month contact: 12months x £56/pm = £672. + £219.99 (subsidised handset) = £891.99 over one year.

Or the best of both I think is:
Year 1: Regular 12month contact: 12months x £56/pm = £672. + £219.99 (subsidised handset) = £891.99 over year 1.
Year 2: SIM Only 12month contract: 12months x £31/pm = £372 over year 2.
Total = £1263.99 over two years.
That's cheaper than signing a regular 24month contract, or doing SIM only for the full 24months.

dasyad · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:33

Strange experience in an EE store today. None of the 4G handsets had 4G signal but had full HSDPA, I figured perhaps they hadn't put 4G SIMs in but when I asked they mentioned it struggled to penetrate old buildings, so they had to take me outside the store to demonstrate it

[EDIT]Westy how does it compare to say buying the phone with Three and then dropping down to their SIM only tariffs?

Westyfield2 · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:37

dasyad said:
Strange experience in an EE store today. None of the 4G handsets had 4G signal but had full HSDPA, I figured perhaps they hadn't put 4G SIMs in but when I asked they mentioned it struggled to penetrate old buildings, so they had to take me outside the store to demonstrate it

Did you get it? Speedtest results?

dasyad · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:44

Westyfield2 said:
Did you get it? Speedtest results?

Yes it was interesting, not a massively fair test as I'm on Vodafone. Anyway on the street I got 0.7MB down with a 200ms latency whereas the 4G iPhone 5 got 5MB down with a 88ms latency. A fairer comparison would be if I had a T Mobile/Orange SIM in because that would show how much of a difference the 4G made. If 5MB sounds slow it seemed to be because the street was flanked by high old buildings and was narrow, so possibly a issue in terms of signal penetration.

AndyCr15 · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:48

Because, most times in London when you want 4G... there aren't big buildings about?!?!

That's rather put me off the idea of 4G actually.

Glaucus · 30 Oct 2012 at 21:50

dasyad said:
Yes it was interesting, not a massively fair test as I'm on Vodafone. Anyway on the street I got 0.7MB down with a 200ms latency whereas the 4G iPhone 5 got 5MB down with a 88ms latency. A fairer comparison would be if I had a T Mobile/Orange SIM in because that would show how much of a difference the 4G made. If 5MB sounds slow it seemed to be because the street was flanked by high old buildings and was narrow, so possibly a issue in terms of signal penetration.

that's terriable im currently getting 100ms and 1.4mb inside a building in a remote area on three.

Wasn't it bandwidth taht use to be 3G, 3G on that bandwidth didn't suffer so badly from buildings?