Because, most times in London when you want 4G... there aren't big buildings about?!?!
That's rather put me off the idea of 4G actually.![]()
I'd try it for your self in a shop before making any firm decisions. Could just have been a local signal issue
Because, most times in London when you want 4G... there aren't big buildings about?!?!
That's rather put me off the idea of 4G actually.![]()
Pretty sure thats because of the band they are using, 800Mhz LTE should be far better when it comes to penetration. Which is why I cant wait for O2/Vodafones LTE offerings, any reason for me to stay on T-Mobile (pricing and good usage cap) has been nullified by EE, theyve effectively priced themselves out of the competition in a years time, because theyve lost their USPs that kept me with them.Because, most times in London when you want 4G... there aren't big buildings about?!?!
That's rather put me off the idea of 4G actually.![]()

Sounds pretty rubbish if you work in central London then - having to rely on being outdoors to get 4G signal - am tempted to move to a network with the 42Mbps HSPA+ or whatever it's called as that should work better indoors and more widely ...
can someone explain what the hell EE is as a brand? its orange and t-mobile partnership right? so why the new branding - im confused????
and i saw today that orange shops are being replaced with the EE refit - its all just a bit weird.
does it have external backing or something???

heres my 4g speedtest
www.speedtest.net/iphone/363971357.png
its actually 3G but better that 4g speed mentions before.
full monty sim only plan with iphone 4s.
Strange experience in an EE store today. None of the 4G handsets had 4G signal but had full HSDPA, I figured perhaps they hadn't put 4G SIMs in but when I asked they mentioned it struggled to penetrate old buildings, so they had to take me outside the store to demonstrate it
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so 4G would not be an option for myself as in my work place, only o2 has strong signal. most of other networks fail
so 4G would not be an option for myself as in my work place, only o2 has strong signal. most of other networks fail

Just thought I should go back in store and try out the handsets that had a solid 3G signal for comparison purposes. Although I wonder if they have one of those devices which routes it all through a broadband connection and thus anyone on T-Mobile/Orange would get great reception in store![]()
Because, most times in London when you want 4G... there aren't big buildings about?!?!
That's rather put me off the idea of 4G actually.![]()
Vast majority of Orange/T-Mobile shops have 2G/3G BTS cells inside them, I'm not sure if they've rolled out LTE eNB's to all of the shops yet as I'm not involved with that side.

Being a glutton for punishment, I decided to call EE again this morning & calmly explained that I had renewed my contract 10 days ago & had upgraded to a note 2 lte handset.
Thankfully the lady seemed to grasp this & I was able to switch to a 4g plan without any charges etc so will now be paying 41pm for my 1gb data plan!
I know its not the best value etc etc but it was bugging me like crazy having my badass phone running on 3g lol
The issue with higher frequencies yes is that penetration is worse as Vodafone keep on spouting. What that means is more towers are needed to be installed to get the right reception levels, as in more expensive for the networks rather than actually effecting coverage.
I swear that area must just be some sort of black hole for phone signals becase the iPhone 5 the EE guy was demonstrating only had 2 bars of signal on 4G but got about 5Mbps down.How much extra are you paying? You might not really see any real world improvements yet but obviously with time things will get better. I just think you would have been a bit better of being more patient about it that's all, no sense paying more when you're not really getting more.