Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

[CapitalOne]

Liz Truss said, "For those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks, we will set up a fund so that all UK consumers can benefit from equivalent support." It depends what she meant by equivalent support.

She meant “I have no idea, you misrepresented what I said. I repeat, I have no idea what I am doing”

 

[robgmun]

Mine with one of those wall meter plugs is about 120w browsing or citrix (work) or 520ish gaming (9900k 5ghz, 3090, 4k 120 fps etc) for reference. I’d be surprised if any normal desktop was over 100w which is indeed about an old fashioned bright lightbulb.

Mine is about 80w doing pretty much anything apart from gaming

 

[chrcoluk]

They need to provide more information on these unit charges and who will get a discount applied. I switched to a deal that is higher than the current (1 April - 30 September 2022) price cap but below what Octobers would have been (£3,549) before the Energy Price Guarantee announcement. Does that mean I will get discount on my fixed tariff or not? Seems that they are missing lots of information about this.

If no discount is applied, it would seem that only people who fixed at a deal above £2,500 would have the discount applied effectively making them much better off compared to people who saw this earlier and acted on getting a fixed deal. I could change to the SVR price cap but the difference is minimal.

Seems we need to wait now for the suppliers for specific deals on tariffs, Octopus have said it will be as late as end of next week. But other suppliers seem to be moving faster with some even putting basic info pages up. I expect we will know a lot more over the next week.

 

[kitkat9933]

Do we have any details of those signed up to fixed tariffs that are above the current cap?

 

[Curlyriff]

Seems we need to wait now for the suppliers for specific deals on tariffs, Octopus have said it will be as late as end of next week. But other suppliers seem to be moving faster with some even putting basic info pages up. I expect we will know a lot more over the next week.

Well if you on SVR you know already. Other companies generally don't have as many complicated EV and such packages. I expect they need time for those packages and don't want to get the info wrong.

You also don't need to worry in terms of end of next week since Octopus have no exit fee for products.

 

[jam pie]

I'm on variable with Bulb (gas and elec) and my rates still showing old ones (27p elec and 7p gas) when I am on my account on the web.

However I had a smart meter wednesday and it's showing £1.57 elec as the tariff , and as legacy credit? Waiting for a response from Bulb but it's been a few days already. This is on the IHD and also the meter itself.

Also I have EV coming in Dec is it worth switching to the EV package now or wait? Are some EV packages with other suppliers better e.g. octopus or is it all a muchness now we're in a manipulated market?

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Bulb and Octopus are roughly the same right now, all the other suppliers "cheap" rates were poor that I saw, BG is like 20p a unit on the Ev period for example.

Octopus have 3 versions Go, Go Faster and Intelligent
Intelligent and Go Faster you need the EV. Go seems to be possible to get onto without one although the T&Cs say you should have one now its not seemingly policed.

The risk with bulb is where does it go if/when its sold on. If it goes to one of the ones with terrible EV tariffs your going to need to change, how quickly who knows.

All that being said, with the new unit cap its tricky to guess where the EV tariffs will go over the next couple of weeks.

 

[LabR@t]

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If no discount is applied, it would seem that only people who fixed at a deal above £2,500 would have the discount applied effectively making them much better off compared to people who saw this earlier and acted on getting a fixed deal. I could change to the SVR price cap but the difference is minimal.

If your are fixed on a lower rate, you do not need the help, the money if being spent to help those forced on to outlandish prices not to make everyone better off.

If you got an earlier fix, well done but you don't need help if you are at or lower than the new government cap, it's going to be painful but painful for everyone

 

[LabR@t]

In praise of Jacob Rees-Mogg and the common sense way to lower bills

As energy crisis bites, the Business Secretary finds himself the voice of reason

www.telegraph.co.uk

Our wonderfully woke police force would be all over this.

. With Switzerland considering jail sentences and fines for those that raise the thermostat above 19 degrees,

 

[the shadow]

Is running an i5-3570 as a htpc going to be costly, think it's 77TDP ? Not sure whether to ditch it and get an Android TV box or a NUC.

Not sure about the calculation, 30pkwh might end up being £100 a year if it's on every day.

Bring up task manager and see how much cpu useage is being used when browing etc

 

[neocon]

Bring up task manager and see how much cpu useage is being used when browing etc

Right, it's only 0.78GHz 4%-10% utilisation

 

[Uther]

The cap's still not great though is it. I mean, it's better than 5k or something stupid but it's still double what it was last year, and I don't think they'll be giving everyone 400 quid every year, so a lot of people are still going to be in the ****.

 

[HungryHippos]

Cap is better than the alternative, if people were paying the current wholesale prices would be looking at more like 70-80p/kwh for electric.

34p/kwh isn't cheap but it could be worse. If we set the bar too low people won't consider usage and will waste the energy we have, at 13p/kwh like we had last year we'd simply run out and have rolling blackouts.

 

[Stu999]

In praise of Jacob Rees-Mogg and the common sense way to lower bills

As energy crisis bites, the Business Secretary finds himself the voice of reason

www.telegraph.co.uk

Our wonderfully woke police force would be all over this.

With Switzerland considering jail sentences and fines for those that raise the thermostat above 19 degrees

Hope they have some big jails.

 

[neocon]

The cap's still not great though is it. I mean, it's better than 5k or something stupid but it's still double what it was last year, and I don't think they'll be giving everyone 400 quid every year, so a lot of people are still going to be in the ****.

We are actually paying for it too. Discouraging over usage.

Taxes will go up at some point, it's inevitable.

 

[the shadow]

Right, it's only 0.78GHz 4%-10% utilisation

Very low wattage being used up i would imagine 4440 intel ere 84W utilisation is low also so i don't sweat it

 

[Dangerous Dave]

Is running an i5-3570 as a htpc going to be costly, think it's 77TDP ? Not sure whether to ditch it and get an Android TV box or a NUC.

Not sure about the calculation, 30pkwh might end up being £100 a year if it's on every day.

My old HTPC used a 3570, put a power meter on it pulled 54watts at idle 60-65watts playing content. I swapped it for a Nvidia Shield I wasn't using and that's 3-4watts idle. 10-14watts even playing high bitrate 4k videos which the 3570 couldn't.

May be worth swapping out for a Amazon Firestick 4k etc depending on how long you use it for each day.

 

[MrBlobby]

I live opposite a school with 100 solar panels on its roof. They can't be using the electricity generated in the summer as there is no one there. Would it be possible to buy it off them? Anyone know how much it'd cost to put a cable under a road? I suppose their neighbours would be cheaper to supply.

 

[ltron]

The huge flaws in Truss' plan:

 

[HungryHippos]

I live opposite a school with 100 solar panels on its roof. They can't be using the electricity generated in the summer as there is no one there. Would it be possible to buy it off them? Anyone know how much it'd cost to put a cable under a road? I suppose their neighbours would be cheaper to supply.

Yeah never going to happen, they will sell it to grid.