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Doobedoo said:
On your own? Your usage will be little more than an anomaly. People are only doing it for the money. That’s it.
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Who cares for me its principle but if it requires a nudge for others then fine.
A usage charge on when its being used is IMO a far better way to go, especially if the source of supply becomes more variable over time with wind/solar etc
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Depends how octopus are buying their energy. Probs my some special circumstance has resulted in a big spike in wholesale price 5pm-6 and hence this a good way for then to avoid the cost?
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Thats the principle for sure, the grid say when they expect the marginal cost of generation to exceed a certain value and are willing to pay people to literally use less.
There are some places that charge frankly absurd prices for the very top of the generation curve.
Its also bad generation, things like diesel generators
 
I sighed up to show support, won't net me anything as I'm on battery's during the peak hours.
Only used 1.1kWh over the last 31 days during the normal rate time.

I think it's a good idea to encourage time shifting of your use where practical.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Who cares for me its principle but if it requires a nudge for others then fine.
A usage charge on when its being used is IMO a far better way to go, especially if the source of supply becomes more variable over time with wind/solar etc
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Well you two are on your own because everyone seems to be concerned with trying to manipulate it to make money.
I agree the better way would be to triple unit price during those hours but that would affect poorer people more. How do you feed your kids because they will be going to bed at say 7. It’s not good to go to bed on a full stomach.
 
silversurfer said:
I saw a provider in NI with 1p for elec units over night and 14p during the day, no idea why I was assuming I must have it wrong. Some parts of the world are fine because of localised hydro power excess production
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I'm in mid Wales with hydro and 5/6 solar farms within 10 miles of me, I still pay one of the highest eclectic charges in the UK. (Mersey and north Wales)
 
robj20 said:
Yeah I'm not doing it, they haven't said if it's even make any money if I went from using 0.5kwh to 0 for that hour do I get anything?
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Its unclear and will become 100% clear tomorrow
They use an example of saving 1kwh.
I've seen elsewhere they mention it being in 30 min slots (you must have 30 min logging enabled) and that it would record in fractions of 0.5kwh
Worst case you switch a bit around and you fall short, you have still helped in your own little bit to reduce the peak
Best case you find its far more granular than you expect and you saved a bit
 
Doobedoo said:
Well you two are on your own because everyone seems to be concerned with trying to manipulate it to make money.
I agree the better way would be to triple unit price during those hours but that would affect poorer people more. How do you feed your kids because they will be going to bed at say 7. It’s not good to go to bed on a full stomach.
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Stop judging people by your own standards

If Jonny and I both think like that you can be sure there are plenty of others. The sample size is way too low to predict based on but its clear even to a total moron that if two people on here think that way there is likely to be more like tens of thousands across the UK (minimum)
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Stop judging people by your own standards

If Jonny and I both think like that you can be sure there are plenty of others. The sample size is way too low to predict based on but its clear even to a total moron that if two people on here think that way there is likely to be more like tens of thousands across the UK (minimum)
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Have you not been reading the comments? And what do you know about my standards I’ve already invested my own money not a thing used between 7.00am- 00.30

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Doobedoo said:
Have you not been reading the comments? And what do you know about my standards I’ve already invested my own money not a thing used between 7.00am- 00.30

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Woooosh

Your standards in regards that you think the only people who will do it are doing it for the financial perspective.

So you have battery, so you have already done it for financial purposes.

No need to be jelly here you already have your savings ;) No double dipping.

And FWIW I have seen comments yes, maybe 20 or so comments (unique) hardly a robust sample is it.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Woooosh

Your standards in regards that you think the only people who will do it are doing it for the financial perspective.

So you have battery, so you have already done it for financial purposes.

No need to be jelly here you already have your savings ;) No double dipping.

And FWIW I have seen comments yes, maybe 20 or so comments (unique) hardly a robust sample is it.
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Maybe not the only people but the majority will be doing it for financial reasons. Take away the incentive and you lose the will no need to be naïve about it.
 
Oh interesting I was just reading up again and noticed this.
"These half hourly averages are then subject to an ‘In Day Adjustment’ which will make adjustments based on how much energy you’ve used on the day of the session."
Which sounds to me like they are going to adjust your average from the previous 10/4 days as applicable. I wonder what the logic on that would be.

If you have load shifted that day is that good or bad in their eyes. I am assuming good and they are trying to dial out a day when you just happened to have very low usage.

Also I think "Any reduction in your usual usage, however small, will result in you earning a bit of reward."
Means you do not have to save whole kwh chunks.

But then they say "You'll earn OctoPoints for every unit of electricity (in kilowatt hours) you don't use compared to normal"
So maybe not
 
Now the darker days have hit my storage battery is usually running out at about 10/11pm.
From today, I will stop the battery discharge from 5 to 8pm and then switch it back to normal discharge, to get some benefit from future Octopus Saving Sessions.

This can be programmed in the software, so it’s no extra hassle :)
 
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My £74 fix with Scottish Power ended in August, in which SP promptly doubled it to £144 and today raised it even further to £176.

I'm a single person in a 1-bed semi (measures 5m x 4m) who uses 7kWh leccy per day and set the thermostat to 19.5C on Google Nest and uses the "away" feature. I think this is fairly reasonable usage for 1 person, and so I'm not going to let the Swedish eco-troll boss me around on how and when I use my energy.

If there are blackouts (which I still don't think will happen), then I can still run my phone, laptop and a few desk lights across 2 UPSs (1600VA and 850VA) and I can ignite my gas hobs with a lighter to boil water or soup, cook pasta etc.

I also have 2 Neewer light boxes (used for photography that can output 600 lux each @ 1m (around the same output as 2 x 60W incandescent bulbs) and they can stay lit for 90 minutes or 3 hours using them one at a time.
 
robj20 said:
What do they base the 1kw saved off?
Mines the same 17:00 - 18:00 tonight.
I'll just try turn everything off for the hour. But don't I even use 1kw during that hour normally.

0.27kwh yesterday
0.1kwh Sunday
0.23 Saturday

So how am I meant to cut 1kwh from that?
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You wont is the point. Neither would I. It is in the FAQ but it is based on last 10 days data. All mine would show that I use around 70watt.
bigmike20vt said:
i agree its a well intended idea i am sure but its easily exploitable......... if you are not on a dual fee tarif there is nothing to stop you deliberately pushing your energy as much as you can to 3:30pm-6:30pm which is the worst possible time to hit the grid (so should be when these offers are normally added) just so you can profit on the special days. I hope people dont do this as it will actively force rolling blackouts.......... but I have little faith in my fellow human when you can make a few bob.
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The times and days are random for random durations so you can't deliberately build a buffer to suit and they use 10 days historical data and only announce the time time and duration 24hrs before.
 
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