Soldato
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I changing to the new octopus intelligent as it's gone from 39p to 28p during the day, but staying at 7.5p on the night. Bit annoying that the daily charge has gone up slightly again though.
Ok I tracked back on the discussion, Agile does the same thing on billing.Its not quoted its how its billed.
If you scroll up you can see my bill data and my actual data which very much do not align.
As Hippo says, unless you have very significant deviations between days (usage and/or cost) then the averages and bills will be very close.
Breakdown by rate
Rate Consumption Cost
19.72p/kWh 161.2 kWh £31.79
Total consumption 161.2kWh @ 19.72p/kWh † £31.79
Standing Charge 30 days @ 20.00p/day £6.00
Subtotal of charges before VAT £37.79
VAT @ 5.00% £1.89
Total Electricity Charges £39.68
† Average unit rate charged per kilowatt-hour.
Ok I tracked back on the discussion, Agile does the same thing on billing.
Ok I tracked back on the discussion, Agile does the same thing on billing.
It will quote on the bill a usage and a unit rate for the entire bill (even though unit rates and usage are done in 30 minute increments), but I think they do that just to make it presentable on the bill in ways people who are used to legacy billing understand.
I think to verify if they do actually bill differently to (daily usage x billing rate per day, then add all days together for bill) one would need to get the calculator out to verify.
Here is an example from Agile.
I don't think Agile does that, it should accurately bill you for 30 min increments like Go/Flux does. Bill usually includes a daily breakdown.
For tracker it just works differently and you can tell because the actual usage per day they bill you doesn't reflect reality.
It does it on the way they present the bill, I pasted it to show MKW, so just because the bill says usage@x unit rate, it doesnt mean thats how they calculate the bill. They just presenting it to show you the average unit rate you paid over the month.I don't think Agile does that, it should accurately bill you for 30 min increments like Go/Flux does. Bill usually includes a daily breakdown.
For tracker it just works differently and you can tell because the actual usage per day they bill you doesn't reflect reality.
It does not. At least not on the bill, or the website.Yeah I was going to say , does Agile not give the daily 30 minute breakdown like Go does. I assumed it would be exactly the same, just with many different rates applied.
I guess can send you a edited PDF, so you have a copy of an Agile bill for reference, I will need to edit out my personal details though.Odd then, you get a detailed bill by 30 minute intervals by day on Go
The headline part at the top of the bill for both gas and elec matches the detailed below.
Its just that for gas the detailed bit is made up.
I guess can send you a edited PDF, so you have a copy of an Agile bill for reference, I will need to edit out my personal details though.
If they do that on GO, dont know why they dont on Agile, basically to check the usage, have to use the historical usage data on the website/app, but it never shows the cost per 30 minutes, just the usage. Or what you get on the API. There is a separate cost per 30 mins graph (table on phone app) as well for current day and next day on the account dashboard, but historical days are lost.
Thats why Octopus watch app was made, I think that shows the cost per increment.
I apologise, I see daily rates for my gas tracker, and I also see 30 minute rates for Agile, I guess I just never scrolled down the bill before.
So Agile does show the 30 minute costs and it shows the average unit rate for the billing period in the summary.
Gas tracker shows the daily cost and it shows the average unit rate for the billing period in the summary.
22nd April 2023 98.550 p/thm 4.68 p/kWh 15.06 kWh £0.70
23rd April 2023 98.550 p/thm 4.68 p/kWh 9.69 kWh £0.45
24th April 2023 98.080 p/thm 4.66 p/kWh 3.68 kWh £0.17
25th April 2023 97.350 p/thm 4.63 p/kWh 3.62 kWh £0.17
26th April 2023 97.650 p/thm 4.64 p/kWh 3.60 kWh £0.17
27th April 2023 90.550 p/thm 4.39 p/kWh 3.59 kWh £0.16
28th April 2023 90.250 p/thm 4.38 p/kWh 14.84 kWh £0.65
29th April 2023 90.250 p/thm 4.38 p/kWh 3.61 kWh £0.16
30th April 2023 90.250 p/thm 4.38 p/kWh 3.61 kWh £0.16
1st May 2023 90.250 p/thm 4.38 p/kWh 3.64 kWh £0.16
2nd May 2023 90.250 p/thm 4.38 p/kWh 3.55 kWh £0.16
3rd May 2023 85.800 p/thm 4.22 p/kWh 3.51 kWh £0.15
4th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 3.53 kWh £0.14
5th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 3.56 kWh £0.15
6th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 17.58 kWh £0.72
7th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 3.57 kWh £0.15
8th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 3.56 kWh £0.15
9th May 2023 82.600 p/thm 4.10 p/kWh 3.59 kWh £0.15
10th May 2023 85.050 p/thm 4.19 p/kWh 3.61 kWh £0.15
11th May 2023 81.550 p/thm 4.06 p/kWh 17.24 kWh £0.70
12th May 2023 78.550 p/thm 3.95 p/kWh 3.58 kWh £0.14
13th May 2023 78.550 p/thm 3.95 p/kWh 3.52 kWh £0.14
14th May 2023 78.550 p/thm 3.95 p/kWh 3.56 kWh £0.14
15th May 2023 78.550 p/thm 3.95 p/kWh 3.57 kWh £0.14
16th May 2023 73.100 p/thm 3.76 p/kWh 3.59 kWh £0.13
17th May 2023 74.450 p/thm 3.80 p/kWh 14.59 kWh £0.55
18th May 2023 71.550 p/thm 3.70 p/kWh 5.94 kWh £0.22
19th May 2023 64.100 p/thm 3.43 p/kWh 3.56 kWh £0.12
20th May 2023 63.550 p/thm 3.41 p/kWh 3.63 kWh £0.12
21st May 2023 63.550 p/thm 3.41 p/kWh 17.06 kWh £0.58
Nope, still waiting for the email…….It's 1st July today, anyone heard about gas tracker?
I was informed by telephone on thursday to wait for the email……and have an email from june with a guaranteed slot. So just have to wait. 50, 0000 customers are guaranteed a slot, thats a lot to transfer.I read elsewhere, those getting on it were already informed some days ago. So if you havent heard anything by now it doesnt bode well for a July move.
Then you fine, your post gave the impression you had no email.I was informed by telephone on thursday to wait for the email……and have an email from june with a guaranteed slot. So just have to wait. 50, 0000 customers are guaranteed a slot, thats a lot to transfer.
My post stated, in reply to its the 1st july……so nope not had the email yet, which they send you to conform which fuel your switching, leccy or gas. Not recieved that one yet.Then you fine, your post gave the impression you had no email.