England V India ***Clash of the Heavyweights*** Test, T20 and ODI Series

Taking 20 seconds to even pick the ball up should be dead ball right away, what benefit is there to taking that long unless to try and get an advantage?

Joke.

Why should it? I don't know of any such rule. To suggest that the fielder did that on purpose is rather far-fetched.
 
Why should it? I don't know of any such rule. To suggest that the fielder did that on purpose is rather far-fetched.

Its setting a dangerous precedent of leaving a ball which touch and go went for 4 or not for 20-30 seconds, to confuse the opposition and try to get a dodgy run out.
 
I really like India - the country, the cricket team. Always the team I root for when England aren't playing.

But... this is fundamentally against the spirit of the game of cricket. The game just isn't played like this. Fielder clearly made it appear like the ball was dead. Some of the Indians were walking off, the umps too. Everything about the situation made it look like it was over and tea.

Erasmus actually went directly to Dhoni and asked if India were appealing. That is the point they can choose to play the spirit of the game, or go for some deeply unsporting gamesmanship.

Fine, they made their choice, but what a poorer game cricket would become if it was to be played in that spirit generally.

For shame.
 
Its setting a dangerous precedent of leaving a ball which touch and go went for 4 or not for 20-30 seconds, to confuse the opposition and try to get a dodgy run out.

He was rolling arse-over-tit after trying to stop the boundary. How is he supposed to know where the ball ended up? I'm sorry, but your suggestion is ridiculous.
 
He was rolling arse-over-tit after trying to stop the boundary. How is he supposed to know where the ball ended up? I'm sorry, but your suggestion is ridiculous.

He stood up. looked for the ball, casually picked it up. Walked in half the distance and casually threw it to another player, who passed it to the WK who then took the bails off and appealed.
 
He stood up. looked for the ball, casually picked it up. Walked in half the distance and casually threw it to another player, who passed it to the WK who then took the bails off and appealed.

Which is entirely understandable given he probably assumed that it had hit the rope after he had tried to stop it. The fielder is not at fault.
 
Yup, the fielder is blameless in this.

Erasmus actually went directly to Dhoni and asked if India were appealing. That is the point they can choose to play the spirit of the game, or go for some deeply unsporting gamesmanship.

Fine, they made their choice, but what a poorer game cricket would become if it was to be played in that spirit generally.

For shame.
Spot on. And shockingly awful umpiring if one did in fact call 'over'.

Can only hope this shoddy episode provides an inspiration for us to put on a bunch of runs and then steamroller the Indian 2nd innings.
 
But blaming the fielder who didn't have a sight of the ball while he was on the ground is purely ridiculous

It's not a question of blaming the fielder. I don't think anyone is seriously saying it was done to deceive!

It's a question of how it appears to batsmen, fielders and umpires. It was clearly a casual lob back after a four. Bell wasn't attempting a run. Rauf gave Sharma his jumper back. Indians were walking off. Bell tapped down his bat, and clearly, indisputably walking off with the Indians for tea, and not attempting a run.
 
:cool: Something's going on...

Hm, on Cricinfo they are saying Dhoni even had the opportunity to withdraw his appeal retrospectively - so basically he had two bites of the cherry at not being a *^% and decided that 'winning' was more important.
 
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