Equal rights, equal... hitting?

pitchfork said:
Simple? Nah I just don't sugarcoat things, why do you think i'm on 127k a year?
You gotta have a pair, you gotta know when to empower people, thats my saying and look where it got me.

I prefer to talk about life as oposed to whats in the daily mail.
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Then surely you'll agree that the majority of people will find the employing of your salary as a justficiation for your position on the matter somewhat... crude? There is no direct relation between salary, moral fibre or intelligence.
 
Well, what with women moaning at every opportunity they can do everything a man can do - even better, why can't we hit them?

I wouldn't, but I would try not to hit anyone.
 
If I hit someone, male or female, I would expect them to hit back (or at least try :p ) rather than someone they were with. People can look after themselvesand since I never throw the first punch, it;s not their "friends" fight.
 
pitchfork said:
Its like beating seven shades out of a man who is half the strength of you, women are biologically weaker. It's a natural fact, thats why you shouldn't hit them, no defenses.
Its nothing to do with opinion, ask any biologist they will tell you, its just how it goes.
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Any biologist worthy of the title would be able to tell you that there is a large degree of individual variation and that, despite what you're saying, there are more than two people on Earth.

Anyone with any experience or who has given much thought to the matter would also be able to tell you three other things. Firstly, that physical strength is far from the only factor in causing harm(*). Secondly, that restraining someone requires a very large difference in skill, strength or both. Thirdly, that you are making judgements based solely on sex and pretending that they are based on something else.

* For example, in the worst domestic violence I know of personally, resulting in the victim being taken to hospital (and I mean taken, on account of being too badly injured to make their own way there) three times, the victim was almost a foot taller than the attacker, double their weight and had probably five or six times their strength. People like you contribute to that sort of thing.
 
pitchfork said:
Simple? Nah I just don't sugarcoat things, why do you think i'm on 127k a year?
You gotta have a pair, you gotta know when to empower people, thats my saying and look where it got me.

I prefer to talk about life as oposed to whats in the daily mail.
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Mate there's no need to stretch the e-peen by dropping unsubtle hints about what you supposedly earn a year (do you honestly think we care?) but the fact remains you are one of the most genuinely ignorant people I have ever seen on these forums. Don't mistake talking absolute gibberish for "sugarcoating", they are two very different things. Seriously.
 
HangTime said:
I'd definitely hit a woman if I felt it was necessary. If someone attacked my fiancee then I would defend her with all my might.

I've got far more respect for someone who will defend their partner from attack rather than just fanny about because of the attacker's gender.

I can't see why punching a bloke makes you 'hard', and punching a woman makes you 'scum'.
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Spot on.

If some woman started to slap me, then I would be more than happy to slap her back.

She obviously thinks she can give it so she can bloody well take it too!

You want equality, you will get it from me.

On the other side of the coin however, in general, a man is much, much, stronger and bigger than a woman, so for a man to hit a woman is often a bad thing to do.

However, as I said, many women go into some kind of hissy-fit rage and nothing other than a smack in *** gob simply wont shut them up.

Not only do men need to know when NOT to hit a woman... Women also need to know when the STFU too!

Its a line that both men and women need to avoid crossin, but regularly do.
 
-gem- said:
punching another bloke doesnt make anyone hard.. i wouldnt look at a man with any admiration for hitting another man. as someone just said, i think its more a strength issue, it seems. and generally, men are stronger than women. therefore, restraint? same as if a bloke was stronger than the guy trying to hit him... i wouldnt expect him to just attack him back, ide expect him to just try and stop him!
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So..
If you're a male
Punching a woman under any circumstances = bad
Punching a thinner/weaker male than you under any circumstances = not so bad, because they've got an Adam's apple?
Punching a stronger/same strength bloke as you are = not so bad, because they've got an adam's apple?
What about women that used to be men?

If you're a female
Punching a man = not so bad
Punching a woman = not so bad


...or have I got that wrong? :p
 
Its not the 1950's and not all women are frail little angels, they are just as capable of causing harm as a man. In extreme cases if they have to go down to save your own family then so be it. In the original OP's case though he was out of order to say what he did imo.
 
Violence is wrong when perpetrated on either gender. However, if someone attempted to assault me or someone I cared about, and violence was the only option that would redeem the situation, the person(s) gender would be irrelevant.
 
Some time back I was seeing a lass and she got hammered on vodka one night and just went off on one and started laying into me for no reason.

I just parried her slaps and punches away in self defence ..... I can not hit a woman. That is how I have been brought up.

As for what you say if a female was getting hit off a male then I would intervene reasonable and if that meant striking him to get him off her then so be it. Tit for tat punching though as the OP suggests ? No.
 
I have to be honest and find it curious women still expect to be treated as women even when they display very typical male traits.

I would still never hit a women unless I had no other choice but I do get tired of women expecting to behave like men but still be treated like women when they choose.

Its one way or the other for me.
 
paradigm said:
I'm surprised that you would even contemplate hitting her Gemma. To be honest, if he is an ex, it should be none of your concern who he is now with. If you still want to be mates with him, just grin and bear it, even if you dislike her.

However, him hitting you back if you did get physically violent with her, is morally wrong.
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Spot on.
 
it's all a question of moral justification

my current gf found me getting a bit flirty via txt with a lass from work, I walked in one day expecting a snog and a bacon sarnie and upon entering the house I was greated by a teary snotty mess who slapped the crap out of my left cheek as I strode in, she was holding my mobile and I knew straight away what the score was. did I hit her or restrain her in any way? not a chance I deserved it totally and utterly.

/flipside


go back near enough 13 yrs and I had just finished work and had raced home to see me 4 month old son, I was working 12 hrs at the time and I made the most of even the merest glimpse of him. upon getting in I dashed upstairs only to find my then gf kneeling over him as he lay on the bed wrapped in a towel with soggy hair ( obviously bathime ) she had her hands splayed out over his chest and was violently bouncing him on the bed whilst screaming at him. I kicked her squarely in the face at full stride having taken about 6-7 paces in which I'd built up speed.

I am not now nor have I ever been proud of what I did but it was 100% instinct and gut reaction. mother or not nobody was ever going to treat a 4 month old child like that.

judge me by all means but unless you've been there don't kid yourself saying you wouldn't ever do that
 
malolo said:
To be fair then I think he had a right to reply since your opening post made reference to him.

You could have had the same discussion without mentioning him.
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my opening post made no reference to any direct person? unless you assume i perhaps only have one ex?
 
titaniumx3 said:
Restraining a crazy woman is the best thing to do; if you can't do that, then you're not a man. If you really need to hit her, grab her arm and slap her with her own hand.
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Read this post
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10312013&postcount=55

or post 160, it's up there ^^

Care to say that again? Would you do differently?

Still say I'm not a man?

In some, admittedly rare, situations, it is the only thing you can do.

Unless you are a Keyboard ninja, in which case you would have lasered her with your eyes by pushing F7.

I say you're the latter that has never been in a situation remotely calling for anything other than the odd a bit of shoving:rolleyes:

If you aint been there, STFU
 
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