equality only goes one way?

dowie said:
I think it changed some time in the 90s, I don't think it forced all troops to accept girls though - as per my local scouts having two boys and one mixed troop. I guess perhaps either there was a further change to force all troops to be mixed or perhaps most troops would have changed these days anyway due to declining numbers - you probably don't want to be too picky about recruitment if most kids aren't interested anymore.
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I dunno, the local packs have waiting lists, not sure what the uptake is nationally. The leaders do a brilliant job and give so much time, wish I had time to help but just dont. :(
 
I complained at work that women in the summer wear almost next to nothing; flips-flops, short dresses etc.. yet men have to adhere to strict dress form.. It got rejected because "Women have more choice than men??" What a load of ******..

I've also seen my local gym offering 50% off members hip for female members?

So yes, if people lay down the laws of equality then it has to work both ways or don't complain or make these issues in the first place.
 
Admiral Huddy said:
I complained at work that women in the summer wear almost next to nothing; flips-flops, short dresses etc.. yet men have to adhere to strict dress form.. It got rejected because "Women have more choice than men??" What a load of ******..
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Eh? They replied to your complaint by simply highlighting some of what you were complaining about in the first place.

Though these days you could identify as gender fluid and follow the women's dress code if you wanted - Swedish train drivers had a similar issue in hot weather:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22828150
 
Admiral Huddy said:
I complained at work that women in the summer wear almost next to nothing; flips-flops, short dresses etc.. yet men have to adhere to strict dress form.. It got rejected because "Women have more choice than men??" What a load of ******..

I've also seen my local gym offering 50% off members hip for female members?

So yes, if people lay down the laws of equality then it has to work both ways or don't complain or make these issues in the first place.
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Maybe the 50% off offer was due to the fact women get paid less then men? for instance, my local female news reporter earns less than adam boulton. Now you COULD say there is a massive difference in job roles (which id personally agree with)....but we've already been there and it seems people keep flogging that horse. It's all about the bits between your legs.

You are also in your right to wear womens clothes now....I think....maybe...it's gotten so complicated I get confused as to what's right and wrong these days
 
dowie said:
Eh? They replied to your complaint by simply highlighting some of what you were complaining about in the first place.

Though these days you could identify as gender fluid and follow the women's dress code if you wanted - Swedish train drivers had a similar issue in hot weather:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22828150
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Yep - my point back was that regardless of choice, there's still a dress code for both sexes.

TheOracle said:
Maybe the 50% off offer was due to the fact women get paid less then men?
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but this is my point, people can't have it both ways because applying a gender discount is discrimination by the same rules they have applied.


I'm fully behind gender equity.. but for all forms of gender.. which ever flavour that comes in nowadays.
 
Are you white male? Yes? Sorry, you don't qualify for this position, we need to fill our quota for woman and ethnically diverse people.

That's basically how it works.
 
TheOracle said:
Maybe the 50% off offer was due to the fact women get paid less then men? for instance, my local female news reporter earns less than adam boulton. Now you COULD say there is a massive difference in job roles (which id personally agree with)....but we've already been there and it seems people keep flogging that horse. It's all about the bits between your legs.

You are also in your right to wear womens clothes now....I think....maybe...it's gotten so complicated I get confused as to what's right and wrong these days
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More likely the gym struggles to attract women and provided an incentive for them to join.

Pretty common to see female only sessions and opening times at gyms too.
 
Eurofighter said:
We don't have white and black only spaces, people shouldn't be separated.
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That's not the same, mixed sex isn't appropriate for things like changing rooms and toilets, as the girl pointed out Guides have sleep overs, they should be allowed to be comfortable at those events knowing they're in an all girls group.
 
Guides aged 5-7 are called Rainbows, has someone read this wrong. :eek:

As scouting is in effect unisex now, surely Trans girls would be as welcome as boys. I do not see a need to make all organisations open and can understand that girls may be more secure in an all female environment.
 
State of the western world 2018: if you object to someone potentially with a fully intact penis and testicles being involved in a supposedly women/ girls only organisation your the one in the wrong!

Its really quite simple there's two matters to consider

1) is a sex segregated space appropriate in the first place?

2) if the answer to (1) is yes then the sex segregation has to be based in some objective grounds rather then a personal subjective feeling otherwise the whole point of question 1 is rendered pointless.

There's a simple way to highlight the madness of the current situation......

Cis, hetero men should, enmasse, (self) identify as butch, lesbian, trans women who eschew surgery and any hormonal treatment and who want to retain their 'lady' penises and testicles whilst still seeking/ maintaining 'lesbian' relationships with (biological) women.

You can say goodbye to a significant part of the supposed 'gender pay gap' straight away. 'Female' sexual offending figures will shoot through the roof and as an added bonus we get to witness that delightful facial expression showing high levels of cognitive dissonance from 'progressives' when they get told by people like me (6'2, 220 pounds etc) that we are women and that they are the bigots if they object to that.

A version of this cognitive dissonance can be seen when a certain Canadian activist (wearing a ball gown) tells one such presumably 'progressive' person that they are a man.

You can see said presumably progressive person wants to scream out "don't be so ****ING ridiculous, you are clearly a woman" but can't because it would undermine a central pillar of their (inconsistent) ideology.

 
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Nasher said:
You could temporary identify as a women and go to the women's session anyway :D
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This DO IT and watch the outcry of how dare you invade their space. or how dare you exclude women if you ask for a male only session.

face it if your a straight white male your a second rate citizen in the eyes of many now
 
Why does the idea of an All Boy or an All Girl institution enrage the liberal elite ?

What is actually wrong with an all girl school ?
Notre Dame High School in Glasgow after a century of being a girls school
is being threatened with smelly boys if the SNP run Glasgow Council has its way.

This is one of the best state schools in Scotland with a enviable academic
record of excellence, why change the successful dynamic of a educational establishment just
to be [ yawn] inclusive ?
 
Nasher said:
So we have certain people dictating what's best for everyone else?
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Roar87 said:
That's not the same, mixed sex isn't appropriate for things like changing rooms and toilets, as the girl pointed out Guides have sleep overs, they should be allowed to be comfortable at those events knowing they're in an all girls group.
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I had sleep overs with my friends that were girls when I was a child. There were never any problems.
 
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