Poll: EU Referendum Voting Intentions

How do you intent to vote in the EU referendum

  • Yes - to stay in the EU

    Votes: 486 58.1%
  • No - to leave the EU

    Votes: 307 36.7%
  • Sepp Blatter

    Votes: 43 5.1%

  • Total voters
    836
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PM: Ministers not allowed to campaign against remaining in EU. Rumours are that at least a third of the cabinet want Britain to leave the EU so will be interesting to see if any of them have the courage to put their political convictions on the line by resigning and losing that nice ministerial salary.

Have to say it was marvellous watching that programme about the Spanish Armada on BBC 2, last night we were treated to Queen Elizabeth's victory speech at Tilbury. I bet she's turning in her grave right now at what's happening to this country's sovereignty:

Queen Elizabeth I said:
I know I have the body of a weak, feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe (does Jean-Claude Juncker count as a modern day prince of Europe?), should dare to invade the borders of my realm;
 
This is what I despise about our political system. The MPs for the party in power are basically forced to be a load of yes men to represent their party and not their constituents.
To think those voting yes or no on this matter would be doing so to represent the constituents is a little silly.

Besides, a majority of the public are in favour of remaining in the EU according to most studies - on this basis should they not vote to stay in? (regardless of conviction).

I see this issue causing huge problems for the Conservative party (again), as they have never been able to align even slightly on this issue, with the traditionalists being usually quite against the EU & the younger fiscal Conservatives tends to be in favour of it.
 
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This is what I despise about our political system. The MPs for the party in power are basically forced to be a load of yes men to represent their party and not their constituents.

I think part of the problem is that the public don't like to see a divided party and divided parties generally fall apart with all the infighting
 
I wonder how many people voted for the conservatives based on having an EU vote, which is already a done deal anyway (As in, we won't be leaving...)
 
I wonder how many people voted for the conservatives based on having an EU vote, which is already a done deal anyway (As in, we won't be leaving...)

That is down to the population. Whatever the government recommends is their opinion. The whole point of a referendum is it is carried by popular vote.

No done deal, but I expect we will remain in, the majority of people who will vote will say yes.
 
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Cameron saying he was misinterpreted *cough cough*.

lol yeah - just seem footage of a rather "frosty" press conference with all the journalists who wrote the original story being told by Cameron that they'd got it wrong. They weren't impressed PMSL.
 
Most people are sheep, and will do what the papers tell them to do.

Hate this bollards. The idea that the media dictate popular opinion is putting the horse before the cart.

The reason the party the Sun has backed as always got in is not because they have massive influence but because they are turncoats who just support whomever they think has the best chance of winning.
 
Well, that didn't take long for Europe to cause the usual discord and dissent within the Tories and the backbenchers causing trouble

*wistful sigh* the nostalgia takes me back, it's just like old times....:p
 
Hate this bollards. The idea that the media dictate popular opinion is putting the horse before the cart.

The media does not "dictate" popular opinion but it does have a powerful influence on it. Do you really think that the stories papers choose to run and the narratives they pick out has no influence on what people think? How do you think people form their opinions if not based on what they hear about what is going on?

You, I and everyone else has an opinion on what Miliband, Clegg, Farage and Cameron are like yet we have never met these people. What we see is filtered through a media lens. The strength of that filter varies, of course - witness the sharp upturn in Miliband's personal ratings as soon as he was able to get relatively unfiltered access to the general public when the election campaign started for a case in point - but it's always there.
 
Is there a reasonable source that gives real information about what leaving v staying would result in?
 
Is there a reasonable source that gives real information about what leaving v staying would result in?

No.

No-one can accurately predict what the consequences would be with high confidence. In part, this is because there is a high degree of uncertainty about what exactly our relationship with the EU would look like if we left.
 
No.

No-one can accurately predict what the consequences would be with high confidence. In part, this is because there is a high degree of uncertainty about what exactly our relationship with the EU would look like if we left.

There's also a high degree of uncertainty about what the secret EU plan that Juncker, Barroso et all are implementing will result in as well. My nightmare scenario of Brussels deciding to frack in west Lancashire to obtain cheap fuel for eastern Europe and new roads for southern Europe is entirely plausible if we are made to sign up to a common energy policy.

Fundamentally it's a referendum about whether you want our laws made in Britain, or Brussels - or localism vs. centralisation.
 
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