European Grand Prix 2016, Baku - Race 8/21

Just reading about all the problems with metal kerbs cutting tyres.

Seriously?! F1 continues to sell itself as the pinnacle of motorsport yet is run but a shower of idiots.
 
Yep, apparently bolts in the kerbs coming lose and now being welded. Whiting being defensive and saying it's all new and they've done the best they could, yet this is the first time metal kerbs have been used instead of rubber and no one has asked why or done any proper testing of them beforehand?

Utterly farcical.
 
Sounds like it's fixed, FP2 under way soon. They have metal curbs here(everywhere or just that corner?) and some of the screws came loose as the cars were hitting it hard enough. 90% of left rear tires damaged by it though none blew because of it which is either good(minor) or lucky. They've removed the screws that came loose and welded that piece to the other pieces. Hopefully just one faulty screw as the female bit embedded in the concrete also came loose. Guess they'll be out to check that curb right after practice before GP2 qualifying(happening after FP2 now).

Actually for safety reasons I'm sure everyone will check their first set of tires as they come into the pits, maybe stop the session midway to drive out and have a look as well.
 
Yep, apparently bolts in the kerbs coming lose and now being welded. Whiting being defensive and saying it's all new and they've done the best they could, yet this is the first time metal kerbs have been used instead of rubber and no one has asked why or done any proper testing of them beforehand?

Utterly farcical.

Yeah, farcical, no other curbs ever needed fixing at older tracks that have been raced on before, oh wait.

Until you actually throw 20 F1 cars over it at full pace hundreds of times it's pretty hard to know it will fail once that has happened.

Monaco is how old, with the people putting it on having how much experience? yet they still had a grill come loose and could have caused severe damage and injury to Button who hit it.
 
Firstly, why use different kerbs to everywhere else to start with? Can't see any reason for that at all and, if there was, they should have been tested as much as possible first, maybe by being used at another track during a test perhaps?

Secondly, the fact that stuff like this keeps happening is exactly my point. We had drain covers coming up at Monaco and needing to be welded down despite this having happened before. Why do the FIA not learn from past experience?
 
They do, my point was things happen, F1 cars put a lot of torque and power through the tires, until you get an actual F1 car to hit the thing repeatedly it's very hard to find a fault that will only show up when F1 cars hit it repeatedly. Things break, nothing is infallible, the design of the curbs could be perfect but a failed inch of concrete allowing a screw to work loose is something you can't predict at the design phase and can't automatically avoid during implementation. Curbs will fail in the same way cars will fail.
 
Hamilton's lap was insane, he did a long warm up lap, then screwed up the last sector of his first run having been 8/10ths up, final lap 7/10ths up despite not as fast in S1/s2 as his first lap. He's pretty much 1 second up on Rosberg at the moment.
 
Hamilton's lap was insane, he did a long warm up lap, then screwed up the last sector of his first run having been 8/10ths up, final lap 7/10ths up despite not as fast in S1/s2 as his first lap. He's pretty much 1 second up on Rosberg at the moment.

I thought they were on different tyres? Maybe misheard commentary.
 
Good job C4, More4 live coverage of FP2 has stopped being available in last few minutes.

It never worked for me at all "this programme is not available" since I first tried at about 2:10pm. FP1 was fine on C4. I'm watching the football instead. Anything but work basically. :p


Rosberg stopped on track, please let it be a karma engine swap. ;)

From the "lost drive" it sounds more likely to be gearbox, but obviously I can't see it due to the above. Edit: OK he also mentioned the engine so it probably was that.
 
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Funny how this track feels a mix of Valencia, Monaco and Singapore while the downhill straight feels like Texas.

I love the squigly uphill section at the castle that feels a bit like Monaco.
 
Hmm, Seriously? I find it bizarre a person who works for F1 would be posting on a forum such as here. No disrespect to OcUK but the fact somebody would be so busy on a schedule like that to have time for here.
 
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