since when, if you go back there's lots of comments saying the total opposite, as well as the stewards who have access to the telemetry
Poll: European Grand Prix 2017, Baku - Race 8/20
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Show us then...
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Sorry, I'm out on my phone but here you go
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LOL, there's no way he's flat on the anchors there. He's up the rev-range as the change up lights are illuminated on the steering wheel.
It's either time delayed or erroneous IMO.
It's either time delayed or erroneous IMO.
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He brake indicator shows full if they just touch the brake
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Best race of the season. Bottas man of the day for me. Awesome drive.
Exactly. The only reason Vettel was too close was because he'd been caught out at the first restart, so was desperate to stick close to Hamilton, stupidly assuming that Hamilton would do the exact same thing again. When Hamilton stayed at the same speed instead of accelerating away (which is his right to do as he backs up the pack), Vettel ran into the back of him.
Apparently Vettel can't tell the difference between a car coming towards him, and him driving into another car. Vettel then decides it's okay to overtake the leading car under a yellow flag, and smash his car into the lead car. He should have be disqualified for that alone, before even considering the other two infractions.
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I said this would happen, the love was all back for Vettel when he wasn't a challenger, now he's back to public enemy no1. 100% Vettels fault a rookie error but let's not try and make out Hamilton hasn't gotten away with being a cheating **** on occasion.
Didn't the rules change a few years back after an incident with Button slowing the pack? Sketchy memory of it.
Anyway Vettel should just apologise for a rookie mistake, then we would have been spared Hamilton trying to act the hard man when he's about as tough as tissue paper.
"If he wants to prove he's a man, we should do it out of the car face-to-face. Driving dangerously in any way can put another driver at risk.
"Luckily we were going slow. If we were going fast it could have been a lot worse. Imagine all the kids watching Formula 1 today and see that kind of behaviour from a four-time world champion. It says it all."
Hilarious stuff from Hamilton and equally pathetic that Vettel couldn't just hold his hands up.
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Hamilton is a master at mind games and bending the rules to breaking point. I can understand Vettel's frustration but his reaction was bang out of order.
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I gave that a generous 5/10. Sadly they acted like a bunch of amateurs today and not like the worlds best drivers that they are supposed to be. Loads of crashes and just downright **** poor driving do not make a good race.
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Poll on sky sports says the penalty was a joke
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Hamilton definatly milked it for everything it was worth in the post race interviews.
Im sure he really is having a laugh about it, funny to take the super high ground when you know someone is in the wrong.
Im sure he really is having a laugh about it, funny to take the super high ground when you know someone is in the wrong.
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Shocker as difficult track with difficult conditions throws a spanner in the works.
F1 is meant to be hard, and tracks like these prove the point and make racing interesting again.
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Always amusing reading the gross over reactions in these threads. Vettels behaviour was a disgrace but it was just a little bump. The 10 second stop and go during the race was deserved, but he could probably do with a 5 place grid penalty too.
That's what Maldonado got for a much worse incident.
That's what Maldonado got for a much worse incident.
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Probably dragging the brake while on the power to get heat into the brakes for the restart.
Didn't really watch the after race stuff but I saw a woman from sky sports asking vettell about the collision (clearly meaning the side swipe) and he just commented about the rear ending, as if he never did such a thing as purposely ram another driver 
Bloke's a great driver but truly more of an A hole than probably anyone else can be.
Bloke's a great driver but truly more of an A hole than probably anyone else can be.
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You obviously don't remember Schumacher in the 90s then! Where do you think Vettel learned it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40400301
Hamilton was not penalised. The stewards examined data from his car and found that he had maintained a more or less constant speed, had not lifted off the throttle or braked, and had behaved no differently at that restart at that point on the track than at the other two restarts.
Hamilton appeared not to accelerate out of Turn 15, the penultimate corner, and Vettel hit him up the back, damaging the Ferrari's front wing and part of the Mercedes' floor.
Vettel then pulled alongside Hamilton and swerved into him, banging wheels.
Hamilton was not penalised. The stewards examined data from his car and found that he had maintained a more or less constant speed, had not lifted off the throttle or braked, and had behaved no differently at that restart at that point on the track than at the other two restarts.
Hamilton appeared not to accelerate out of Turn 15, the penultimate corner, and Vettel hit him up the back, damaging the Ferrari's front wing and part of the Mercedes' floor.
Vettel then pulled alongside Hamilton and swerved into him, banging wheels.