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Greebo said:
Shame he turned into a diva and had to be sacked. Said he wasn't prepared to work on the cars anymore as he was a better star than that,
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is that the case? its a while back (and totally ot so sorry about that) but i thought the show wanted to spend more time on the Brewer stuff because the China content was too indepth and "boring" for the average American consumer and was also more expensive to film.... so sure perhaps he did get the hump a bit but then if what he considered the important part of the program is getting less and less coverage and he was asked to dumb it down, i can see why he would throw his toys out of the pram TBH.
 
bigmike20vt said:
is that the case? its a while back (and totally ot so sorry about that) but i thought the show wanted to spend more time on the Brewer stuff because the China content was too indepth and "boring" for the average American consumer and was also more expensive to film.... so sure perhaps he did get the hump a bit but then if what he considered the important part of the program is getting less and less coverage and he was asked to dumb it down, i can see why he would throw his toys out of the pram TBH.
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It was a clip of Mike Brewer talking about Ed and why he left at a local car show which a member of the public filmed on his mobile. Doubt Mike knew he was being filmed. he slated Ed and said Ed had said he no longer wanted to do the "hard work" of fixing the cars which was a shame but that was why he had to be replaced. That may well not be the official reasons given to the public at the time.
 
Finally had a chance to actually drive the GV70 EV for a decent length of time today. Quite impressed with the efficiency to be honest.

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It was a mixture of A and B roads, and I was in the default 'comfort' mode, with driver focused HVAC at 21°C and the ambient was 12°C

I wasn't even trying to drive efficiently. I imagine I could get ever better results in warmer weather.
 
lol I was happy driving into work (admittedly enthusiastically in parts) and getting 2.8mi/kWh average on the journey.................... (i was around 2.2-2.4 when we were sub zero temps)

but then i didnt buy the ipace for its efficiency i guess :)
 
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I never really monitored it in the Polestar 2, but I don't think I would have ever seen those sort of numbers.

It was the least efficient model though to be fair - The launch edition Dual Motor with no heat pump and Performance upgrade.

MY24 might be able to manage 3.5mi/kWh
 
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4.5 home yesterday. Much better now it’s a bit warmer. However it depends so much on the route it’s pretty pointless.
 
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is that 2.5 without any pre-heat

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Maybe trump could do some good > https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/tesla-boss-musk-warns-china-ev-risk-without-trade-barriers 25/01
but, if even Musk thinks he currently doesn't have a chance against byrd - sounds like he's not connected into the subsidised chinese battery supply mafia.
BYD's should be the same price as other usa native EV's if they are building them in the USA though.

SAN FRANCISCO -- Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that Chinese automakers will "demolish" global rivals without trade barriers, underscoring the pressure the U.S. electric vehicle market leader faces from rivals such as BYD, who are racing to expand worldwide.
Musk's comments come after Warren Buffett-backed BYD - with its cheaper models and a more varied lineup - overtook Tesla as the world's top-selling EV company last quarter, despite the U.S. automaker's deep price cuts through 2023.
Chinese car companies were the "most competitive" and "will have significant success outside of China, depending on what kind of tariffs or trade barriers are established," Musk said on a post-earnings call with analysts on Wednesday.
"If there are no trade barriers established, they will pretty much demolish most other car companies in the world," he said. "They're extremely good."
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Still, brand awareness of Chinese car companies in the U.S. is extremely low and their reliability, durability and safety is middling, so they have a long way to go to win U.S. market share, said Spencer Imel, a partner at consumer insights firm Lansgton.
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Former President Donald Trump, who is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president this year, has signaled that he would double down on stronger tariffs if elected, calling for a universal 10 percent tariff on all imports into the U.S. and revoking China's most-favored-nation trading status.
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jpaul said:
is that 2.5 without any pre-heat
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Yer, just jump in the car and drive local journeys. Heating on, no preheat.

I can get 2.8/9 on a longer run, but most drives are only a few miles taxying kids around - so lots of energy wasted on getting the car up to temperature.
 
jpaul said:
is that 2.5 without any pre-heat

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Maybe trump could do some good > https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/tesla-boss-musk-warns-china-ev-risk-without-trade-barriers 25/01
but, if even Musk thinks he currently doesn't have a chance against byrd - sounds like he's not connected into the subsidised chinese battery supply mafia.
BYD's should be the same price as other usa native EV's if they are building them in the USA though.
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So the capitalist West :D has profited for decades by having stuff cheaply manufactured in China, with a Western brand label tax applied to Western consumers of those products, but as soon as Chinese companies themselves compete in a key industry the talk of tariffs, barriers and "revoking China's most-favoured-nation trading status" talk come along.
And China being frustrated as they feel the USA want to hold them down, keep them producing cheaply for Western profits. ;)
 
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bigmike20vt said:
lol I was happy driving into work (admittedly enthusiastically in parts) and getting 2.8mi/kWh average on the journey.................... (i was around 2.2-2.4 when we were sub zero temps)

but then i didnt buy the ipace for its efficiency i guess :)
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2.9 here for me today haha

2.4 on the way home though without the benefit of pre heat
 
Kona facelift picked up. erm awesome :)

I thought I did my homework but tons to learn/get used to. The place a bought it from didn't give me any charge (I think they just forgot and don't have a fast charger) so had to find local one, used zapmap, found pub a mile away with 3x CCS all available, one hour later 100%. £45 ouch :) but about what I expected (same as £1200 petrol per year). Then 30 mile drive back home the long way via motorway.

Wasn't a fan of higher or auto regen modes, so far like sport or normal and level 1/auto regen off. Didn't really give it everything but erm yeah it can go! lol.

Just been looking at other charging options. My sister might be getting a home charger soon. I had forgotten about this, but just checked Telsa and some chargers are open to non-Telsas and they have much better rates at off peak times, like at midnight :) 49p/kw non-members or 39p/kw members, so I think that might be my go to, will try end of next week. (I don't have to charge then I'll still be at about ~40% but wanna test.)
 
chanjy said:
2.9 here for me today haha

2.4 on the way home though without the benefit of pre heat
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I saw 3 at one point driving home last night. that was in comfort mode with heated seats and wheel but me deliberately driving sensibly (not like a granny just not driving like a teenager either). by the time I was home that was down to 2.9 but I am happy with that and that was without pre heating.
my wife's I3 in this weather can now also do 3 days to and from work without charging or needing to use the rex (admittedly it's on around 6% at the end of that). in the cold snap we had to charge every other day.
 
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