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I'm going to do a jpaul and mention something I saw in my YouTube feed but perhaps more useful 
Someone has built a CCS to Chademo adapter as a commercial product and it actually works. Happy days for Leaf owners, well except its £1000 at the moment.
The PS2 is actually quite a bit smaller inside than the Model 3, to the point the centre console actually encroaches on your leg space as the driver. For some people that isn't a problem, for others its a bit cramped.
Someone has built a CCS to Chademo adapter as a commercial product and it actually works. Happy days for Leaf owners, well except its £1000 at the moment.
Not if that is not a problem for you, we used a Model 3 as our only car for 2 years and it wasn't a problem. If you regularly transport washing machines in your boot then yes, it will be a problem.
The PS2 is actually quite a bit smaller inside than the Model 3, to the point the centre console actually encroaches on your leg space as the driver. For some people that isn't a problem, for others its a bit cramped.
Pretty much every manufacturer of pretty much every vehicle on the market is offering deep discounts at the moment.
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They have had these cheeper pre configured cars for well over a year.
Works out quite a bit cheeper than a model 3 LR, which is pushing north of £700 for a 4 year lease (this is a bit of a stretch to justify).
If you order a custom then the price is a lot more than the Tesla.
It’s only a small difference for AWD so this is probably the way I will go.
The rear boot is actually smaller, but the hatch is nice. However the transmission tunnel in the back is a bit jarring. But I haven’t sat one yet.
So a great opportunity for somebody looking to lease as pricing should get more aggressive?
I wouldn’t say normalisation. The battery technology is plummeting in price and some manufacture are being very aggressive on pricing and to survive the rest need to reduce pricing.
Just look at the polestar 2 pricing.
RWD standard range £45k
AWD long range £53K
That excludes the options of pilot pack (£2K) and plus pack (£4K)
Compare this to a model 3 RWD £40K and AWD LR £50k. Or the BYD Seal AWD at £48K.
This suggests that the polestar 2 is between £5k and £10k over priced. I doubt there manufacturing cost and overheads have enough margin to take this kind of haircut.
Tesla significantly cut prices at the start of 2023 (?) the market / other manufacturers are still adjusting.
I wouldn't say PS2 is over priced, it has features the Tesla doesn't and many would argue it is better built (it is but its not that much better). I'd say it is at the upper end for what you get at RRP (IMO).
Its my view that it really needs to come with some of what's in the plus and pilot packs as standard. No doubt they have put some 'basic' stuff into each of those packs to 'encourage' people to spend the extra £6k. For example, you get a heat pump, panoramic roof, heated steering wheel, TAAC and auto steer as standard on the £40k model 3 but not the £53k PS2.
Even Automatic emergency breaking and the phone key are part of the option packs.
They did, but really they only put them back to where they should have been after inflating them due to having huge lead times. Most of their cars are still more expensive than in 2021 despite the cost savings they have bought through.
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I don't really get why polestar have not been blessed under volvo's dealership network, like ex-30, which would add value to the brand,
and, as a brand in financial problems, I'd be thinking about long term parts & servicing availability as a 2nd hand owner;
yes it's fine for an aggressive initial new company lease, as crazy said.
Cars that are being predominately built in europe too, or have plans to be, also gives confidence that any (uk/eu) import costs for parts might be more stable, even if many parts are made in China,
'normalization' I forsee on market is that those chinese companies manufacturing on western soil will be the winners.
What version did you drive RWD or AWD? I just got a text offering me a drive. If I get one via work it will probably be the RWD one.
My sister in law has just had a Model Y delivered. It’s nice to sit in but too big for my liking.
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I did a test drive in the RWD, would have happily got one if it had the same PCH or PCP rates as the Y.
The rates for the Y are very atactive as they will be clearing stock pre the refresh.
The finance documents I have for the leasing show an £8.7k discount on the Y’s list price. The Y RWD does have a few advantages over the 3 as it has the premium sound system at least.
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One of my neighbours just picked up a Model X. Such a badass car compared to 3/Y/S
Interesting, glad to hear it’s a bit of a nothing burger for you.
There is a fairly vocal cohort of people in the Tesla owners group who are immediately writing it off without even the press getting their hands on them let alone a test drive.
The Y is a great car for the money and 9% on the 3 is a bitter pill to swallow at the moment. That said the Y will probably be getting the ‘highland’ treatment by the end of the year.
The downside of when you refresh 1 of your 2 identically styled cars is that its pretty clear the other is going to be refreshed shortly afterwards and means you probably need to pull some pricing leavers to maintain sales.
Have you driven/owned an old 3 and how does the new 3 compare?
I had a quick poke around in one at the service centre just before Xmas and I’ll sort myself out a test drive at some point when it’s convenient and make my own judgement. We’ve just leased a Model Y and we’ve got no need for a second car so I’m not exactly in a rush.
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I dont like the screen drive selection or the lack of indicators, no double you would get used to it, but its change for change sake, may aswell do away with everything and have it voice activated 
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I think full on driving will show its foibles more than a test drive, they are always a bit of an assault on the senses when everything is different. Entering and leaving a roundabout… people just won’t indicate.
Looked last night and the rates for the RWD model Y look attractive, shame it’s range is a little too short for my work requirements.
Now that I've got the Zoe I need to get a home charger installed. I'm leaning towards the myenergi Zappi 2.1 as I've already got a eddi, harvi and hub and it works fine with my solar and battery. Seems like it would make sense to get what is regarded as a perfectly good charger and can integrate it into my setup quite easily.
Any other option I should consider?
Any other option I should consider?